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Heya folks,

Not sure if this is out of order or not, but given the fact the Mellowtone is unfortunately no more, has anyone managed to properly clone the CC/DC?

I have a legimate reason for asking in that I have one and have great results using it for jangly noisy garagey stuff. However, given the limited nature of item I really don't want to use it for gigs etc. for fear of it being lost, stolen or damaged. Also, it would be super handy to be able to power it from my powersupply instead of battery only. Some LEDs would be fairly handy on stage too! I know McSpunkle and possibly others can mod them, but like I said, I'd rather not gig with the original. I also have a Supa Chan I could use but I find it doesn't have quite the same tone. Still nice, just different.

I can try to take photos of the guts of mine and post details on the components if needed if people want to work it out. Or if anyone has already successfully done so, I'd LOVE if they could share it. I've built a few pedals myself but an useless and working out schematics just from looking at PCBs and stuff.

Again, I am not sure if this is considered out of order, and if it is, I apologise. There is no ill-intent here, just looking to build a gig-worthy replica of a fantastic pedal.

Can you post up some good quality photos of the pcb, both sides?

Ben79 wrote:Can you post up some good quality photos of the pcb, both sides?

I'll try, although getting shots of the underside of the board may be an issue without breaking something.

I have no idea if this is cool or not since the situation is so complicated now. normally I would say mellowtone is ILF so this reverse engineering talk belongs on freestompboxes BUT with Eric completely disappearing and not building anything ever again I don't see how this hurts him. maybe just PM the all mighty dalton to get the green light? or start posting pics on FSB. either way.

eatyourguitar wrote:I have no idea if this is cool or not since the situation is so complicated now. normally I would say mellowtone is ILF so this reverse engineering talk belongs on freestompboxes BUT with Eric completely disappearing and not building anything ever again I don't see how this hurts him. maybe just PM the all mighty dalton to get the green light? or start posting pics on FSB. either way.

Yeah it's a weird one isn't it? WIll PM Tom anyway. I KINDA think it may be ok going by the pink text up there saying "not in production", but you're right given who the builder is etc. Won't be posting any pics or anything until I get the all clear regardless.

chutneyfarmer wrote:

eatyourguitar wrote:I have no idea if this is cool or not since the situation is so complicated now. normally I would say mellowtone is ILF so this reverse engineering talk belongs on freestompboxes BUT with Eric completely disappearing and not building anything ever again I don't see how this hurts him. maybe just PM the all mighty dalton to get the green light? or start posting pics on FSB. either way.

Yeah it's a weird one isn't it? WIll PM Tom anyway. I KINDA think it may be ok going by the pink text up there saying "not in production", but you're right given who the builder is etc. Won't be posting any pics or anything until I get the all clear regardless.

I got into a situation with tom about cloning a mellowtone a long time ago and his reply was that even though its not in stock does not mean it is not in production. I was a bit but rules is rules.

eatyourguitar wrote:

chutneyfarmer wrote:

eatyourguitar wrote:I have no idea if this is cool or not since the situation is so complicated now. normally I would say mellowtone is ILF so this reverse engineering talk belongs on freestompboxes BUT with Eric completely disappearing and not building anything ever again I don't see how this hurts him. maybe just PM the all mighty dalton to get the green light? or start posting pics on FSB. either way.

Yeah it's a weird one isn't it? WIll PM Tom anyway. I KINDA think it may be ok going by the pink text up there saying "not in production", but you're right given who the builder is etc. Won't be posting any pics or anything until I get the all clear regardless.

I got into a situation with tom about cloning a mellowtone a long time ago and his reply was that even though its not in stock does not mean it is not in production. I was a bit but rules is rules.

I can kind of see where he was coming from if Mellowtone were still active at the time. Stuff kinda came and went, and came back again if you get me. I'm fairly sure Mellowtone is dead in the water though at this stage unfortunately. Sure we'll see what he says anyway and take it from there

eatyourguitar wrote:

chutneyfarmer wrote:

eatyourguitar wrote:I have no idea if this is cool or not since the situation is so complicated now. normally I would say mellowtone is ILF so this reverse engineering talk belongs on freestompboxes BUT with Eric completely disappearing and not building anything ever again I don't see how this hurts him. maybe just PM the all mighty dalton to get the green light? or start posting pics on FSB. either way.

Yeah it's a weird one isn't it? WIll PM Tom anyway. I KINDA think it may be ok going by the pink text up there saying "not in production", but you're right given who the builder is etc. Won't be posting any pics or anything until I get the all clear regardless.

I got into a situation with tom about cloning a mellowtone a long time ago and his reply was that even though its not in stock does not mean it is not in production. I was a bit but rules is rules.

If I remember, this ^ was about the Wolf Computer...?
But at the time, Mellowtone WAS still around...I didn't have anything in stock, but Eric had told me that he was working with a fine fellow here on ILF to stock Wolf Computers at a couple dealers. He'd cooled off from building, but fully intended to continue. This was before Eric totally disappeared. And disappeared without sending some guys their paid-for pedals.

The policy here is basically: no cloning of in-production pedals.

I empathize with small builders, and if someone can't build their pedals for a month or two, but fully plans to return, I don't think there should be a cloning frenzy...I'd like to give people a month or two to get their stuff together (and at the time I came down on the Mellowtone issue before, Eric had told me this was his plan. And in any uncertain case, if a builder seems to be out-of-business, or they've discontinued a pedal that someone wants to discuss cloning here, I think it's best if we contact them to ask them personally if possible.)

I think it's safe to say that Mellowtone is firmly, undoubtedly out-of-production. It's been about a year now. No one, including myself, can get a hold of him.

Anyway, carry on!

Tom Dalton wrote:If I remember, this ^ was about the Wolf Computer...?

yes sir. you and me had no way of knowing at the time but in the end it was determined that eric open sourced it first before that thread existed. its still up but I have not built one yet.

Ok, as Tom as already stated above and in his return PM to me, he is ok with this thread going ahead. Also as pointed out above Mr Wire is now doing a clone of the said pedal. I will most likely end up getting Mr Wire to build me one, however if people still wish I can take photos etc and this thread can still go on

I'd like to see it. If there is only one person who builds them, then clearly we know the results of what happens if that person disappears.

ask Mr. Wire to post a schematic. I can't imagine that he would say no.

eatyourguitar wrote:ask Mr. Wire to post a schematic. I can't imagine that he would say no.

That would probably be the most sensible option however, I'd feel like a bit of a dick doing that after having already sent him a query regarding pricing etc on one of his clones, if you know what I mean?

Going to try and take some pics today anyway but they'll only be cellphone pics unfortunately.

PM'd Mr. Wire