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Planning a small synthy side-rig

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:14 pm
by DarkAxel
Hey, so i need your opinions and advice

there's a locally made Theremin for around a hundo, it only has one antenna and volume and sensitivity controls. It's pretty rad tho :)
but there's no tone control or anything AND you obviously need a delay to go with it :)

anyway... we play kind of progressive rock with funky and jazzy influences, sometimes there's a bit of noise, sometimes there's a bit of psychedelic soundscapes to go under everything... so i was thinking "let's use a Theremin"

so how about a small synthy rig... the audio out would go from the Theremin to Korg Monotron Delay. This way, i'd have a delay AND an analog filter after the theremin, the delay can oscillate and also can work as a standalone mini-synth :) it has audio in and line out, se we'd lead a cable right to the mixing console and hear it through monitors :)

gradually, we could ad some more stuff, obviously... but so far, that could work well, right? :)

any experience with using the Monotrons as filters?
would that be rad as hell?

and another question - could we use the line out to go to a volume pedal after the Monotron so we can control the volume of the rig?

(this rig will not happen right now, but this year, it shall eventually happen ;) )

Re: Planning a small synthy side-rig

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:20 pm
by Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D.
monotron filter is pretty dope. sounds like a sound idea to me.

Re: Planning a small synthy side-rig

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:31 pm
by DarkAxel
Can the Monotron Delay delay the incoming signal? it should right?

Re: Planning a small synthy side-rig

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:34 pm
by Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D.
yea it does

from korg website:
Aux input jack lets you apply filter and delay to any audio source

Re: Planning a small synthy side-rig

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:39 pm
by DarkAxel
nice, thanks :)

it would be cool to know whether anyone have done anything like this

Re: Planning a small synthy side-rig

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:13 pm
by ryan summit
ive had an idea for homeade theramin
rattlin in my brain for years
maybe after skullys box is done
psyched to see how this pans out axel
i think its gonna be sick

Re: Planning a small synthy side-rig

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:04 pm
by zRobertez
And then add an octave and a bit crusher :love: :thumb: :love:

Re: Planning a small synthy side-rig

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:02 am
by ChetMagongalo
Subdecay Prometheus, it's so fucking awesome

Re: Planning a small synthy side-rig

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:12 am
by Bartimaeus
Personally, I found the Monotron too small to be usable, but then again my main midi keyboard is 88 keys, and I have a high end multi-octave ribbon controller as well.

However, if you are running the Theramin into the Monotron, then it should work out well for you. I highly doubt that you'll be able to find a cheaper delay/filter combo. The Monotron's sound isn't my complaint, but rather its size. I think that for the applications that you have planned for it, it'll serve you well.


PS If you ever plan to add any other types of synths, DO NOT get a MicroKorg. That thing IS a toy, not an instrument. I'm sure that good sounds can be gotten out of it, but if you're going to spend that much on a synth don't get one like that(Roland Gaia is much better imho).

Done ranting etc.

Re: Planning a small synthy side-rig

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:28 am
by backwardsvoyager
Bartimaeus wrote:PS If you ever plan to add any other types of synths, DO NOT get a MicroKorg. That thing IS a toy, not an instrument. I'm sure that good sounds can be gotten out of it, but if you're going to spend that much on a synth don't get one like that(Roland Gaia is much better imho).

Done ranting etc.

Really?
Thanks for the warning, I was planning on getting a microkorg pretty soon to use in a side-rig haha
Does that go for the microkorg XL and R3 too? I like the sound of the Gaia but where I am its nearly twice the price of a microkorg ($650 as opposed to $350)
Was considering a pocket piano midi + midi controller too but something more versatile would be good

Theremin -> monotron delay sounds sweet though! Theremin always reminds me of The Octopus Project
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PMxDi6N9KU[/youtube]

Re: Planning a small synthy side-rig

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:42 am
by DarkAxel
Bartimaeus wrote:Personally, I found the Monotron too small to be usable, but then again my main midi keyboard is 88 keys, and I have a high end multi-octave ribbon controller as well.

However, if you are running the Theramin into the Monotron, then it should work out well for you. I highly doubt that you'll be able to find a cheaper delay/filter combo. The Monotron's sound isn't my complaint, but rather its size. I think that for the applications that you have planned for it, it'll serve you well.


PS If you ever plan to add any other types of synths, DO NOT get a MicroKorg. That thing IS a toy, not an instrument. I'm sure that good sounds can be gotten out of it, but if you're going to spend that much on a synth don't get one like that(Roland Gaia is much better imho).

Done ranting etc.


hey, thanks for the advice :) we're not looking for that though... this is really just a little corner for making funny noises/soundscapes ;)

hmm, bitcrusher might sound COOL

Re: Planning a small synthy side-rig

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:08 pm
by zRobertez
DarkAxel wrote:
hmm, bitcrusher is sound COOL

Re: Planning a small synthy side-rig

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:24 pm
by 01010111
Bartimaeus wrote:PS If you ever plan to add any other types of synths, DO NOT get a MicroKorg. That thing IS a toy, not an instrument. I'm sure that good sounds can be gotten out of it, but if you're going to spend that much on a synth don't get one like that(Roland Gaia is much better imho).

Done ranting etc.


I would have to disagree. If you've enjoyed any of the music of the last ten years there's a very good chance you've enjoyed listening to the microkorg. And if you find one used in the $200-250 range you could not get a better deal for any synth ever. I'll admit, not the best synth to learn synthesis with, but it does sound very good for the price.

While the Gaia is a fair synth, if you're in that price range try to find a used blofeld instead, three oscillator synth that kills! The Gaia has some features that you can't even use unless you're using an external midi controller BOOO.

Or, if you're already in that price why not try a nice mininova, if you're already using your computer for music stuff I don't think the mininova would be too bad as long as you plan on using the software for all your programming.

Re: Planning a small synthy side-rig

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:33 pm
by Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D.
lol, the microkorg is pretty tight dude. its def not a toy.

Re: Planning a small synthy side-rig

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:09 pm
by 12XU2A3X3
the microkorg is a great preset synth in the tradition of the ARP pro-soloist. it's built for pop/12-tone stuff and simplicity is paramount on the front pannel. it's really successful for just this reason. if you get one and decided you want to delve deeper into synthesis, SELL IT and get something that is intuitive to edit. it's some straight crazy DX7 shit to edit, and you don't want to bother with it.