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looping for electric piano?

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:58 pm
by mathias
Hey guys,

I had a friend ask about how you'd go about live looping on an electric piano. It's not quite a synth; my understanding is that it's one of the higher-end grand piano-style keyboards with a line-out and a MIDI out. He was thinking that he could do MIDI out to a laptop, record the MIDI notes, and use a foot controller to start/stop recording and playback of the loop. His only concern was that he feels like there's too much latency whenever he uses the MIDI into a laptop (and it's a top of the line retina Macbook Pro, which is about the fastest computer I've ever used, but his USB=>MIDI interface might be slow.) And he was complaining about the piano samples in software like Garageband being worse than what the piano had built in, but whatever :idk:

I haven't really done that with MIDI before, so I showed him the Line6 dl4 and the new TC Electronics Ditto to show him how I'd do it with the line out and maybe a mixer.

There's gotta be some way to do this. How would you do it?

Re: looping for electric piano?

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:04 pm
by Achtane
I'd use a loop pedal :idk:
No need to worry about latency and laptops. You can even put it on the floor next to the sustain pedal or whatever.

Re: looping for electric piano?

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:06 pm
by hbombgraphics
I looped my wifes yamaha with an RC2 ran the whole thing through my pedal board
just ran from the line/headphone out with a standard cable
not sure it is the technically correct way to do it but it worked great

planning on setting up my roland this way through the mic input on my RC20 shortly to see what I can come up with

Re: looping for electric piano?

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:49 pm
by dubkitty
that's what i'd do, run the keys straight into the looper (or mixer->looper).

Re: looping for electric piano?

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:56 pm
by mathias
So an RC3 should work? I can loan him some studio monitors and a mixer, and see what they comes up with.

Re: looping for electric piano?

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:44 pm
by hbombgraphics
mathias wrote:So an RC3 should work? I can loan him some studio monitors and a mixer, and see what they comes up with.



yeah it will work great

whoever has my RC2 (skully???) probably got it with piano tracks in it

Re: looping for electric piano?

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:51 pm
by aen
If he's using a computer, you might as well use it to loop audio, rather than dealing with midi.
Of course pedals are easier to loop with.

Re: looping for electric piano?

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:40 pm
by skullservant
hbombgraphics wrote:
mathias wrote:So an RC3 should work? I can loan him some studio monitors and a mixer, and see what they comes up with.



yeah it will work great

whoever has my RC2 (skully???) probably got it with piano tracks in it


zRobertez has it :facepalm:

Re: looping for electric piano?

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:57 pm
by hbombgraphics
skullservant wrote:
hbombgraphics wrote:
mathias wrote:So an R :picard: :lol: C3 should work? I can loan him some studio monitors and a mixer, and see what they comes up with.



yeah it will work great

whoever has my RC2 (skully???) probably got it with piano tracks in it


zRobertez has it :facepalm:


Flipper

Re: looping for electric piano?

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:47 pm
by Helter
I use an rc-3 with a pocket piano all the time it works great plus it has little drum beats so you can bump and grind on yo desk!

Re: looping for electric piano?

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:08 pm
by sonidero
Why would you not be able to use a Looper??? Looping MIDI is a ridiculous convoluted process and should not be attempted by anyone... My friend didn't want to get a Flashback for his Keyboards cause it is a "Guitar" pedal... I am just wondering where the confusion is??? :idk:

Re: looping for electric piano?

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:31 pm
by zRobertez
hbombgraphics wrote:
skullservant wrote:
hbombgraphics wrote:
mathias wrote:So an R :picard: :lol: C3 should work? I can loan him some studio monitors and a mixer, and see what they comes up with.



yeah it will work great

whoever has my RC2 (skully???) probably got it with piano tracks in it


zRobertez has it :facepalm:


Flipper


yeah dat shits mine, betch :cool:

Re: looping for electric piano?

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:37 pm
by dubkitty
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azEOeTX1LqM[/youtube]

Re: looping for electric piano?

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:54 pm
by mathias
sonidero wrote:Why would you not be able to use a Looper??? Looping MIDI is a ridiculous convoluted process and should not be attempted by anyone... My friend didn't want to get a Flashback for his Keyboards cause it is a "Guitar" pedal... I am just wondering where the confusion is??? :idk:


Same reason, the "it's a guitar pedal" and also because they probably thought that looping MIDI might work.

Basically recommended the RC-3 and a mixer. We'll see what happens.

Re: looping for electric piano?

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:55 pm
by mathias
Also, found this while searching youtube for live looping keyboards. She's good.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izrL7pBdkaw[/youtube]