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Next Polyphonic Octave Generator??

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:29 am
by raphaël
Hey,

Does someone got secret intel from any boutique pedal master about him making a polyphonic octave generator?
Cause I don't really like the Pog 2 (too cold, and I heard that ehx pedals break easily), I kind of dislike the voicing and tracking of the Organizer, and I desperate having an organish pedal that I like on my board!!!!

Happy new years eve btw :) !!!!

Re: Next Polyphonic Octave Generator??

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:29 am
by bronzetalon
I dont know why you dont like the pog...it sounds great and I've never had any problems with mine.

Re: Next Polyphonic Octave Generator??

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:52 am
by raphaël
I don't said that I don't like the pog 2, I don't "really" like it ;)
I was just wondering if there is gonna be something new out somewhere that I'd like better!!!

On one of the most influant french gear forum, a lot of folks have complains about the durability of the ehx enclosures, switches and toggles :idk:
Maybe french people are stupid :lol: !!!!
Maybe that's why I consider myself much an ILFer than a french guy...

I must consider the pog 2 back on my imaginary board then...

Re: Next Polyphonic Octave Generator??

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:17 am
by univalve
I hated the pog2 when i had it. So i can understand this.

Re: Next Polyphonic Octave Generator??

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:28 am
by Chankgeez
What about something like the new Infanem Second Voice Deluxe?

Would that do what you need?

I don't "really" like the POG2 either. It's great at what it does and I like the sound of it when other people use it, but it puts too much of a stamp of its own sound upon your signal. No matter how you try, it always sounds like a POG2. It's pretty distinct sounding. I'd prefer a pedal that allows for a little bit more of an individual sound.

I haven't tried it, raphaël, so I don't know if it'd work, but what about parallel processing your signal? You can run a few different octave devices and blend the sound to your liking? It might be a little more work and be more expensive, but it also might give you greater control of the sound you're after.

Re: Next Polyphonic Octave Generator??

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:41 am
by Casavettes
This thread reminds me, did that TWA Great Divide ever get released?

Re: Next Polyphonic Octave Generator??

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:54 am
by Holy Schnikes
Maybe try a regular POG as opposed to the POG2? Lots of folks seem to prefer that early model except for the enclosure size.

I love both and use a POG2 now but understand why others may not dig it so much. I use it mainly for suboctave stuff and run it into fuzz, sounds pretty natural in that application. I mean, when you run the organ sounds it will definitely impart it's own sound as noted above but it's an organ sound, not the most natural of guitar tones you know...:idk:

Regardless, there's nothing else out there like the POG series, not yet at least.

Re: Next Polyphonic Octave Generator??

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:57 pm
by excane
Casavettes wrote:This thread reminds me, did that TWA Great Divide ever get released?


Nope. Not yet. I was interested in this and Kevin at Godlyke told me he doesn't know when (if at all) they'll be available.

Re: Next Polyphonic Octave Generator??

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:03 pm
by Casavettes
aw fiddlesticks..
i was just watching this vid and kind of got excited about it
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfbp4a3e_c0[/youtube]

Re: Next Polyphonic Octave Generator??

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:55 pm
by bugzaney
http://www.zcatpedals.com/?dir=view&id=octaver-chorus

Theres also a poly octaver with reverb and a poly octaver with chorus and reverb. Ive not tried any zcat pedals but maybe its worth a try. There are some seemingly really cool pedals by them.

Re: Next Polyphonic Octave Generator??

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:09 pm
by Muse FTW
The new Digitech Whammy (both the regular sized 5 and the big ol' DT) track chords perfectly, in my opinion.

Re: Next Polyphonic Octave Generator??

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:50 pm
by raphaël
Thanks for your replies!!
I know Zcat pedals, I'm quite of having a very small gas on their Spring reverb, but those polyoctaver aren't tracking well imo...
The Whammy gen5 seems to be good but it doesn't play more than one other octave right?
Also I hate how it looks and don't want one on my board...ok, I know, this is insanely stupid :)

The Infanem is not what I'm looking for but seeing the demos makes me want one so bad!!!
Chankgeez, I'm super curious about parallel processing my signal, but how you'd do it?
Within a loop? A/B boxes?

Re: Next Polyphonic Octave Generator??

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:17 pm
by Chankgeez
raphaël wrote:The Infanem is not what I'm looking for but seeing the demos makes me want one so bad!!!
Chankgeez, I'm super curious about parallel processing my signal, but how you'd do it?
Within a loop? A/B boxes?


You'd need something to split your signal. I think there're many devices that could do it. A mixer would work.

I don't have much experience with parallel processing, but've always been interested. Combing effects in parallel results in very different sounds than combining 'em in series. Effects are capable of sounding clearer and more distinct. You can use effects more subtly or not, but you'd have more control over the final sound. You can blend the signal paths in ways that'd eliminate the mushiness which is sometimes the result of stacking too many effects. In your case, you'd be doing something that's not possible with running the effects in series. I'm not actually sure this would work to get you the sound you want, but it's just a thought.

Re: Next Polyphonic Octave Generator??

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:07 pm
by hollowhero
Muse FTW wrote:The new Digitech Whammy (both the regular sized 5 and the big ol' DT) track chords perfectly, in my opinion.

+1 The octave down could be a little fatter sounding, but I'm really happy with my whammy 5 overall.