iPad or Elektron Machinedrum UW (long story here)
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:10 am
Okay I am just hunting for opinions about what you would do.
I originally had a huge boner for an Elektron Machinedrum UW+, the model which allows you to load in samples and manipulate them/mangle them into something unrecognizable/new. I really like that it is a drum synthesizer, the sound design and effects, the pLock-which is on each step of the sequencer you could change the sound of the drum of you want, probably more effective to not over do it but whatever. Between messing with samples, and changing the pitch on drums, and using effects it is possible to have pads, basslines, leads, vocal samples, whatever. The main con with the unit is that there is limited memory for samples, 2.5 MB...and the price, $1500 new. I have found a used one that I could scoop up for less than $1100.
I have spent a lot on gear this last year and am trying to spend a bit less, sure there are a few pedals on my radar, but I am very happy with my Bass(es), Amp, Cab, and pedalboard. To come up with $1100 would mean digging into my pedalboard some, no way to get around it or hitting my financial aid hard and "paying myself back" over the semester, not what I am wanting to do, trying to be more responsible with money (I am engaged and we have a mortgage, etc).
So, I talked to a buddy about the Machinedrum and he mentioned the iPad as a cool option. I got to checking it out more, lots of sweet apps and with the newish Audiobus app, it really opens the iPad up to do some serious stuff being able to use multiple apps at once. So, I have kind of got all pumped up about the iPad. I know in the long run that I will have $1100 in the iPad (iPad 4 64 GB, some sort of interface/docking station with all of the in/outs I need, apps, stand, etc) but the upfront cost is less, say $700ish for the iPad and I have an iTunes gift card so I can get a few apps right away and then get the interface and so on.
So, that is what I think I am going to do. Then a dude gets hold of me and he has a Machinedrum UW but it is the version before the latest, a few differences but essentially the same with 2MB for samples, and the price is the same as an iPad 4, which is really cheap for this model, $150-200 less than they normally sell. SO now I am kind of going back and forth.
Oooffff, I guess I should tell you what I am trying to do with this equipment. I play in a band, but I also am trying to restart a solo project that is electronica/ DnB/whateverthefuck. I have done it before with only my NI Maschine and played out doing controlerism stuff with the MAschine and my laptop. I got bored so know I am trying to sort of do the same thing but with my Bass synthed out (OC2, Behringer BSY600, MarkBass SuperSynth, Mini CPU, IE Xerograph DLX, PitchFactor, Koma BD101, a Frostwave Resonator, going to add either a ModFactor or Mobius and for sure a Koma FT201), I have a M-Audio Venom synth. I don't want to drag around a laptop so Maschine is not going to be part of this.
Basically, after all of that writing (sorry) would you go with Maschinedrum, despite it's limitations it is cool as fuck. Or stay with the course and get the iPad and have way more capabilities. Recording is part of the solo project plan, making use of samples too, so not just a drum machine is needed.
I originally had a huge boner for an Elektron Machinedrum UW+, the model which allows you to load in samples and manipulate them/mangle them into something unrecognizable/new. I really like that it is a drum synthesizer, the sound design and effects, the pLock-which is on each step of the sequencer you could change the sound of the drum of you want, probably more effective to not over do it but whatever. Between messing with samples, and changing the pitch on drums, and using effects it is possible to have pads, basslines, leads, vocal samples, whatever. The main con with the unit is that there is limited memory for samples, 2.5 MB...and the price, $1500 new. I have found a used one that I could scoop up for less than $1100.
I have spent a lot on gear this last year and am trying to spend a bit less, sure there are a few pedals on my radar, but I am very happy with my Bass(es), Amp, Cab, and pedalboard. To come up with $1100 would mean digging into my pedalboard some, no way to get around it or hitting my financial aid hard and "paying myself back" over the semester, not what I am wanting to do, trying to be more responsible with money (I am engaged and we have a mortgage, etc).
So, I talked to a buddy about the Machinedrum and he mentioned the iPad as a cool option. I got to checking it out more, lots of sweet apps and with the newish Audiobus app, it really opens the iPad up to do some serious stuff being able to use multiple apps at once. So, I have kind of got all pumped up about the iPad. I know in the long run that I will have $1100 in the iPad (iPad 4 64 GB, some sort of interface/docking station with all of the in/outs I need, apps, stand, etc) but the upfront cost is less, say $700ish for the iPad and I have an iTunes gift card so I can get a few apps right away and then get the interface and so on.
So, that is what I think I am going to do. Then a dude gets hold of me and he has a Machinedrum UW but it is the version before the latest, a few differences but essentially the same with 2MB for samples, and the price is the same as an iPad 4, which is really cheap for this model, $150-200 less than they normally sell. SO now I am kind of going back and forth.
Oooffff, I guess I should tell you what I am trying to do with this equipment. I play in a band, but I also am trying to restart a solo project that is electronica/ DnB/whateverthefuck. I have done it before with only my NI Maschine and played out doing controlerism stuff with the MAschine and my laptop. I got bored so know I am trying to sort of do the same thing but with my Bass synthed out (OC2, Behringer BSY600, MarkBass SuperSynth, Mini CPU, IE Xerograph DLX, PitchFactor, Koma BD101, a Frostwave Resonator, going to add either a ModFactor or Mobius and for sure a Koma FT201), I have a M-Audio Venom synth. I don't want to drag around a laptop so Maschine is not going to be part of this.
Basically, after all of that writing (sorry) would you go with Maschinedrum, despite it's limitations it is cool as fuck. Or stay with the course and get the iPad and have way more capabilities. Recording is part of the solo project plan, making use of samples too, so not just a drum machine is needed.

