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Opinions on pedalboard power
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:24 pm
by wdinc01
I have too many pedals to fit on one One Spot enough pedals to justify a larger power supply unit. What do you suggest? I currently have a One Spot, which works fine but does leak in noise. The options I see are getting another One Spot, although I don't know how much more/less noisy that would be, or looking into a power brick. I'm building a pedal board out of an IKEA Gorm shelf, so I'd like something that I could mount under it.
I currently have 10 pedals, and will probably call my board finished at about 13 or 14. So I'd like something that can either power that many pedals, or is cheap enough so I could get two of them. I should note that I don't have anything that runs on 12V or 18V, so having those options isn't important. I'm mounting a power strip under my board, so if I need a weird power unit I can just add one.
Re: Opinions on pedalboard power
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:36 pm
by bronzetalon
Well noise comes from the type of pedals you daisy chain...some just don't like to be on a daisy chain. Do you need to power anything with exotic power requirements? A PP2+ is usally the best option but depending on what you have there might be a better choice out there. What are you pedals currently?
Re: Opinions on pedalboard power
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:40 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
wdinc01 wrote:I have too many pedals to fit on one One Spot enough pedals to justify a larger power supply unit. What do you suggest? I currently have a One Spot, which works fine but does leak in noise. The options I see are getting another One Spot, although I don't know how much more/less noisy that would be, or looking into a power brick. I'm building a pedal board out of an IKEA Gorm shelf, so I'd like something that I could mount under it.
I currently have 10 pedals, and will probably call my board finished at about 13 or 14. So I'd like something that can either power that many pedals, or is cheap enough so I could get two of them.
If you want to avoid noise leak from the power supply you will need isolated outs, that eliminates the power brick. Plus powering 13 to 14 pedals will need atleast 2 power supplies. Unfortunately that doesnt add up to cheap. I'd look into VooDoo labs, t-rex, cioks (sp?), and custom builders. I believe someone on here builds custom power supplies and could probably work with your dimensions and power needs.
Re: Opinions on pedalboard power
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:43 pm
by wdinc01
bronzetalon wrote:Well noise comes from the type of pedals you daisy chain...some just don't like to be on a daisy chain. Do you need to power anything with exotic power requirements? A PP2+ is usally the best option but depending on what you have there might be a better choice out there. What are you pedals currently?
I edited my post to add in information. I don't use anything that requires more than 9V, and I don't foresee getting any pedals that would use that.
The current line up: Korg Pitchblack, BAT Pharaoh, ss/bs TAFM, Boss ODB-3, EHX Freeze, Boss DD-3, TC Flashback, EQD Hummingbird, EQD Grand Orbiter.
I have a ring mod on the way, and a BBE Sonic Stomp that I have decided if I want to use in my set up.
Ancient Astronaught wrote:If you want to avoid noise leak from the power supply you will need isolated outs, that eliminates the power brick. Plus powering 13 to 14 pedals will need atleast 2 power supplies. Unfortunately that doesnt add up to cheap. I'd look into VooDoo labs, t-rex, cioks (sp?), and custom builders. I believe someone on here builds custom power supplies and could probably work with your dimensions and power needs.
I figured I would need two power supply units, which isn't a problem. Depending on what is recommended, I might be able to pick up some used ones. I know McSpunkle was making some units, but he's ran into some problems with parts. Are there other people on here who build power units?
Re: Opinions on pedalboard power
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:59 pm
by Holy Schnikes
PP2+ is excellent but you'll void the isolation once you start daisy chaining. This doesn't guarantee noise but makes it more likely. Maybe save some $$ and see if another OneSpot introduces any problems first....
Re: Opinions on pedalboard power
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:07 pm
by wdinc01
I might just do that. Maybe try a combinations of 5-6 pedals and see if there's a lot of noise. I think the Pharaoh might be adding a lot of noise. But I've been wanting to get isolated units for a while now.
Re: Opinions on pedalboard power
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:22 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
wdinc01 wrote:Ancient Astronaught wrote:If you want to avoid noise leak from the power supply you will need isolated outs, that eliminates the power brick. Plus powering 13 to 14 pedals will need atleast 2 power supplies. Unfortunately that doesnt add up to cheap. I'd look into VooDoo labs, t-rex, cioks (sp?), and custom builders. I believe someone on here builds custom power supplies and could probably work with your dimensions and power needs.
I figured I would need two power supply units, which isn't a problem. Depending on what is recommended, I might be able to pick up some used ones. I know McSpunkle was making some units, but he's ran into some problems with parts. Are there other people on here who build power units?
I believe McSpunkle was the person i was thinking of, if hes not making em right now i don't know who else would.

Re: Opinions on pedalboard power
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:31 pm
by bronzetalon
Yea go for a second one spot and if that doesn't do it return it and get a isolated guy.
Re: Opinions on pedalboard power
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:32 pm
by Holy Schnikes
wdinc01 wrote:I might just do that. Maybe try a combinations of 5-6 pedals and see if there's a lot of noise. I think the Pharaoh might be adding a lot of noise. But I've been wanting to get isolated units for a while now.
Yeah, experiment a little, everyone has different opinions on what's acceptable when it comes to noise. That said, I hate noise/hum and power everything with two PP2+'s and a CIOKS DC10. That's a bunch of pedals, zero daisy chaining, and zero noise.
If it comes down to comparing isolated supplies, the PP2+ is super reliable but limited to more standard power requirements. It does sport a courtesy AC jack for high draw pedals though. The CIOKS has way more available output/flexibilty and can handle most any DC powered pedal with ease. It also costs a bit more. It's just a matter of current and future requirements.
Re: Opinions on pedalboard power
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:40 pm
by Rob Fossil
I don't know about the quality of these things, but they guy sells them cheap on Ebay. For under $40, I figure once I run out of spots on my DC Brick, I'll give it a shot.

Re: Opinions on pedalboard power
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:54 pm
by Psyre
Ancient Astronaught wrote:I believe McSpunkle was the person i was thinking of, if hes not making em right now i don't know who else would.

Unfortunately he has hit a couple picket fences to hop over. I'm hoping he can have the Team Tesla out soon!

Re: Opinions on pedalboard power
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:23 pm
by wdinc01
Yeah, I was hoping to pick up a Team Tesla but I'm waiting to see if he gets the problems all sorted out.
Also, those Logsdon Audio units sound good, and I haven't seen anything bad about it on TGP, so I might try them out. Coincidentally, I found someone selling two units, which would give me the amount of outlets I need*.
* - Until I get enough pedals to fill out another pedalboard
Re: Opinions on pedalboard power
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:25 pm
by ifeellikeatourist
Artec has a power supply out that claims to be isolated. It's got 8 spots, two of which have a sag control that you can adjust from 6v to 9v...it looks like a pretty good pp2 knockoff for 60 bucks shipped on eBay...
Re: Opinions on pedalboard power
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:27 pm
by Jenesis
BBE Supa Charger is cheap and good. Got mine for $140-ish from Amazon.
Re: Opinions on pedalboard power
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:41 am
by DarkAxel
Anyone know anything about Fame stuff? it might be EU-based thing btw