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Here's the info Mike is curious about:

Hi Rangsters,
   I hope you are all well and enjoying life. Here's another opportunity
to direct our product development. This is a survey of MIDI features and
behaviors you would like to see implemented. Primarily our goal is to provide
enough MIDI capabilities to easily sync with an external source such as a drum
machine.
   Thanks in advance. Any time you spend on this will be much appreciated.

1) What would be adequate for your needs?
 a. III works as master
 b. III works as slave
 c. III works as either

2) What about control commands?
 a. III sends Start, Stop & Continue commands
 b. III responds to Start, Stop & Continue commands
 c. III can send and respond to Start, Stop & Continue commands

3) What about Song Position Pointer?
 a. III sends SPP command
 b. III responds to SPP command
 c. III can send and respond to SPP command

4) What clock data formats do you need to be supported? Indicate all that apply.
 a. SMPTE
 b. MTC
 c. MIDI clock (F8 command)
 d. MIDI clock quarter frame (F1 command)

5) How will you use the III in a MIDI sync situation? Indicate all that apply.
 a. With a drum machine only
 b. With multiple MIDI devices playing in sync
 c. With a computer
 d. Other - Please explain

6) Describe the work flow of using the III with your other MIDI devices. How this would work ideally?

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Mike Nelson
Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc.
General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd.

What say you?

I think the first three would all have to be c in order for this to be useful to the most people. But at the very least it would have to respond to comands. Having it only send out commands doesn't seem entirely useful. Also, accepting an external midi clock is a must.

If I were to buy it in the next year I'd be using it with a drum machine and a keyboard so they could all be playing together. But I could see using it with a computer in the future (I plan on moving as much of my music making stuff to the computer as possible, won't be happening quickly, though).

Also, fuck yes! Ive been thinking about getting a looper that could be clocked to an external midi source, but I didn't really want to get the Roland one. Why isn't midi in an option on mid-range loopers as well as the gigantic super loopers?

1 c
2 c
3 i do not care
4 c
5 a and b

If this will be implemented i'm highly interested.

univalve wrote:1 c
2 c
3 i do not care
4 c
5 a and b

If this will be implemented i'm highly interested.

Bumping this because I need a looper. I agree with univalve's choices.

This would make the boomerang more desirable (for me) than the 2880 if it was implemented.

I'm looking forward to seeing him implement this simply because its not something I use, but have wanted to try. I'm very happy with my Boomerang, and even more happy to see that it's actually getting support for it as a platform.

1) C (or at least B)
2) C (or at least A)
3) ?
4) ?
5) B & C

6) I want to incorporate a stereo phrase sampler into an acoustic/electronic drum/synth setup, ultimately as a part of a ridiculous experimental 3 piece. The idea here is that the BIII would plug into the FX loop of my mixer. Stereo signals from a mic'd acoustic drum kit, vocal mics, and a laptop running Reason would be directed to the pedal when their respective "FX level" knobs are turned up.

One of the most important characteristics of the phrase sampler(s) in a rig like this would be midi-clock sync to the laptop (Reason) when playing to sequenced electronic parts. Perhaps just as important would be the ability to sync multiple pedals so that the other dudes can create their own loops without drifting away from what's already there. Without the midi sync, the BIII is only about half way there for me. Everything else about the pedal seems dead on with what I'm looking for, but that midi sync is key.

I bought the rang 3 to use specifically for midi sync. Obviously I didn't do enough research first. Please let me know as soon as you guys make an update or add functionality. I'm thinking of trading it in for a 2880 otherwise.

1) What would be adequate for your needs?
 a. III works as master
 b. III works as slave
 c. III works as either
B

2) What about control commands?
 a. III sends Start, Stop & Continue commands
 b. III responds to Start, Stop & Continue commands
 c. III can send and respond to Start, Stop & Continue commands
B

3) What about Song Position Pointer?
 a. III sends SPP command
 b. III responds to SPP command
 c. III can send and respond to SPP command
B I think

4) What clock data formats do you need to be supported? Indicate all that apply.
 a. SMPTE
 b. MTC
 c. MIDI clock (F8 command)
 d. MIDI clock quarter frame (F1 command)
I don't know know the difference between c and d. Not sure. From what I have researched it seems that Midi Beat Clock is a format that can include start, play, stop, and can include tempo change info.

5) How will you use the III in a MIDI sync situation? Indicate all that apply.
 a. With a drum machine only
 b. With multiple MIDI devices playing in sync
 c. With a computer
 d. Other - Please explain
E. with an iPad outputting midi beat clock info at very least to control the tempo. Later on, we'd like to be able to also hook my rang 3 up to a rang 3 for a keyboardist as well synced to the same source. Eventually it would be great to have the iPad or computer send control info to record the first pattern of each new song section for a bass line, then stack next time over that section for me lay down guitar line for that part, then switch to record new part on cue from iPad. So we can have synths and other sounds playing along with the song, synced to our live performance. This would probably work even if the pedal is just receiving beat clock info, as long as I hit the record buttons at the right time.

6) Describe the work flow of using the III with your other MIDI devices. How this would work ideally?
ideally master iPad or computer controlling rang 3, delay time on roland space echo, and arpeggiator on keyboard.

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Mike Nelson
Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc.