and wondering if it will work well in a feedback loop... or ANY multifx in a feedback loop
Re: multi-fx in a feedback loop?
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:16 am
by Bassus Sanguinis
The Mad Owl wrote:looking at an rp55 (only 50 bucks)
and wondering if it will work well in a feedback loop... or ANY multifx in a feedback loop
....I'm pretty sure the digital multifx will just crap out and that's it. To my experience the digital fx just don't overload musically very nice. Boss multi fx for example just can't take a hot signal.
There will be exceptions, too. Boss and Digitech single stomps have taken pretty good fedback loop boost. Just not the multi. Prob a difference in buffers, internal gain levels etc
Re: multi-fx in a feedback loop?
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:36 am
by the_carl
When I had an M9 it didn't really react well in a feedback loop. It would just sort of freak out and make loud screeching noises and stuff. But in a bad way, like not in the way the single pedal versions of stuff would have reacted. Even with things like delay it didn't really play nicely.
I think people have gotten good results with the super cheap single stomp Behringer Multi, though... If you're just looking for cheap things to mess around with in a feedback loop people tend to like the Dano pedals, methinks.
And I do have digital pedals that work well in feedback loops; my digidelay for example. So I don't know if that really matters a whole lot.
Re: multi-fx in a feedback loop?
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 7:02 am
by theavondon
My M5 works pretty rad in a feedback loop? Depends on the effect, really. Reverbs, flangers, ring mod, all cool. Also, MM4 is siq in a fbloop.
Re: multi-fx in a feedback loop?
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 7:15 am
by Bassus Sanguinis
theavondon wrote:My M5 works pretty rad in a feedback loop? Depends on the effect, really. Reverbs, flangers, ring mod, all cool. Also, MM4 is siq in a fbloop.
I'm interested in how the late 70's analog multi fx would work - they pop up every now and then, usually pretty cheaps At teh moment a dude is selling locally one for about 100 $
Re: multi-fx in a feedback loop?
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:31 am
by Schlatte
my digitech rp 90 is useless in a feedback loop... it just craps out. but I like it before the loop... it's a nice way to influence the pedals that are in the loop.
Re: multi-fx in a feedback loop?
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:30 pm
by Jero
theavondon wrote:My M5 works pretty rad in a feedback loop? Depends on the effect, really. Reverbs, flangers, ring mod, all cool. Also, MM4 is siq in a fbloop.
Can you use the m5 for looping at all? I don't think it has a dedicated loop function like the rest, but doesn't it have a dd4 sim? (which can loop, right?)
Re: multi-fx in a feedback loop?
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:07 pm
by theavondon
It does everything a M9 can EXCEPT loop.
Re: multi-fx in a feedback loop?
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:27 pm
by TheOndrakGuy
The bassist in my band used to use a shitty Zoom 501 II or something like that. It was an awful, awful pedal, but in a homemade feedback loop, it sounded like whales! It was worth the £20 from a pawn shop just for that. I think the worse the actual multi effect is, the better it is in a feedback loop.
Re: multi-fx in a feedback loop?
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:44 pm
by Trifarce
I have an old, cheap multi-effects pedal, in a feedback loop it can sound like the gates of hell opening up, if that's what you're after
Re: multi-fx in a feedback loop?
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:54 pm
by delaydecay
I had an old Boss ME-33 multi effects processor and it worked great in a feedback loop. i loved reverb in a feedback loop. it was just a huge cluster fuck, wall of sound that id use the volume foot pedal with to coax out.
I think you'd just have to find the right processor and selection of effects to create interesting sounds.
Re: multi-fx in a feedback loop?
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:11 pm
by Bellyheart
1:45
Also, it works awesomely with my Ring Thing, which isn't quite the same, but it does do some crazy.
Re: multi-fx in a feedback loop?
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:43 pm
by Astricii
Yeah what Belly said. the thing to remember is that the Utterstutter turns off and on rapidly I've some pedals that don't like static FB loops to work better by either turning the feedback WAY down or using my DBA Fuzz before the loop.
It's important to remember that the pedal before and after the feedback looper will impact what works and what doesn't. shit's cray.
Re: multi-fx in a feedback loop?
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:14 am
by The Mad Owl
thanks, guys!
i've been feedback looping for a while now... and i've never thought to try a multi-fx in the loop.
i've owned behringer pedals, but my looper (a DD SPAE) does not take well to them...
i do own several danos, a few boss and digitech pedals and they all respond well... just looking to expand on the cheap
Re: multi-fx in a feedback loop?
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:52 am
by hbombgraphics
delaydecay wrote:I had an old Boss ME-33 multi effects processor and it worked great in a feedback loop. i loved reverb in a feedback loop. it was just a huge cluster fuck, wall of sound that id use the volume foot pedal with to coax out.
I think you'd just have to find the right processor and selection of effects to create interesting sounds.
Man I miss my ME-33
I have the ME-20 as well and it is not nearly as cool (especially in a loop) What i have found is that the ME-20 makes any effects after it noisy and terrible it has to be at the end of the chain Tried running it into my RC2 and it just sounded like crap
I think it is the noise reduction circuit that most Multi effects pedals have, also: Tried the digitech chorus factory in a loop and that basically shut down the whole loop, nothing would feed back anymore.