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So any way after pondering it for a long while and procrastinating I had some time to start getting these drums cleaned up.

I am going to take some photos as I go through the process.



I have started working on the 9 x 13 tom.

Some rust. I've got some Barkeeper's Friend to take care of this.



I couldn't actually remove this damper......the corrosion on it kept me from completely removing it.



Hard to see but the small tom had an area where the bearing edge seemed a bit chewed up.

Just ordered some heads for the 13" and 16" toms. Coated Emperor's for the beater side. Coated Ambassador's for the resonator side.

Plan to order a Powerstroke 3 and a Fiberskyn head for the bass drum. Waiting to get paid again before I order those. I will clean up the bass drum last.

I've been using some citrus cleaner to remove dust and dirt and grime. Novus #1 and #2 after that. Seems to be doing the trick.

Barkeeper's Friend for the metal parts.

My intention is just to clean these up and get them back in functioning condition. I am not going to do a full restoration....that would be pointless for these drums methinks.

Nice kit!

Fiberskyn bass resos are where it's at

So much hnnnnnng knowing that you're both

1) Restoring sick Ludwigs
2) Doing the right thing and putting coated Emperors on them.

I really only give a shit about like three or four things in drums, and there's two of them.

theavondon wrote:So much hnnnnnng knowing that you're both

1) Restoring sick Ludwigs
2) Doing the right thing and putting coated Emperors on them.

I really only give a shit about like three or four things in drums, and there's two of them.

What are the other two?

I think like...giant (24"+) bass drums and only using ride cymbals, no crashes.

theavondon wrote:I think like...giant (24"+) bass drums and only using ride cymbals, no crashes.

Well this bass drum is 22" x 14" so that doesn't quite meet that standard but I am using two ride cymbals (zildjian earth, sabian memphis) and a pair of 14" hi-hats at present. No crash.

Sick. I mean, can't go wrong with that. One of the drummers in my band uses a 70's Ludwig with a 22" bass drum, the other has a 80's Ludwig with a 24". They both sound great though, when their batter heads aren't broken.

Regardless, I dig.

Ride > crash

i really like smaller kits (4 piece) and a few cymbals, i hate those big kits

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Fuzzy Fred wrote:Ride > crash

i really like smaller kits (4 piece) and a few cymbals, i hate those big kits

you're awesome

As I get these cleaned up my present kit is just a bass drum, snare, hi-hat, and the two ride cymbals. I think I could get by without toms, though a floor tom is a wonderful thing. Smaller toms seem less useful to me.

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my drummer keeps adding smaller toms and cymbals onto his drumset, and as we play, he takes them off because it just doesn't get used. then he puts them all back on and the cycle starts over.

Fuzzy Fred wrote:i think i love you

my drummer keeps adding smaller toms and cymbals onto his drumset, and as we play, he takes them off because it just doesn't get used. then he puts them all back on and the cycle starts over.

Yeah, I don't understand why people think they need to do that......I think I could actually pair things down to bass drum, snare, hi-hats, and my 21" Memphis Ride (it crashes nice) and not feel like I was missing anything....though that Earth Ride is one heavy cutting beast of a ride.....and it is nice to slam on a floor tom. But mostly I hate all this super-fast double bass, splash, crash, china cymbal, side snare, small tom bullshit. The point is to lay down a rock solid heavy foundation....a Götterdämmerunging groove....a steady freaking beast of propulsion.

Ha,....I'm definitely looking into a drums wet for Casa De Hoy. I'd be happy with a good sounding snare and kick; some high hats and a ride (maybe two since the choice advice is Ride > Crash).

None of this Terry Bozzio shit (not that I don't like Bozzio,...but I'm interested in developing a more focused and groove oriented style).

warwick.hoy wrote:Ha,....I'm definitely looking into a drums wet for Casa De Hoy. I'd be happy with a good sounding snare and kick; some high hats and a ride (maybe two since the choice advice is Ride > Crash).

None of this Terry Bozzio shit (not that I don't like Bozzio,...but I'm interested in developing a more focused and groove oriented style).

You could put together a real nice cheap simple rig from used stuff......Bass Drum, Snare, Hi-hats, Ride, Hardware......for me the hardware is most important as I want things to be rock solid.....I've got DW 5000 stuff which I bought new and is totally bulletproof....but beyond that you should be able to a really nice Bass drum for not much over $100, Lots of decent snares out there for under $100 (Acrolite is a good choice), Zildjian New Beats or Quick Beats can be gotten from not much over $100, A Sabian Stage Ride should be possible for about $100...also some older Zildjian 20" rides.....and they will function as a crash as well as a ride......this rig would be way more solid than cheap entry level sets.

The thing I find is that for the most part,....people are selling whole kits whether they are entry level, mid level or whatever; and it would be a shame to shell out a bunch of money just to stick a majority of the set in the corner of my basement. Obviously I could pick up a shitty set for around $200 and I wouldn't be opposed to revamping a set like that in the vein of what you are doing with your Ludwig. That said; I could not that much more for the pieces that I know and get a better sounding pieces (in theory at least). I should hop on some drum forums and see what little bits and pieces I can find.

I'm totally a beginner but I think I'm beyond an entry level kit. When I first told my Gmom I wanted to learn to play an instrument,....I should have been more specific. What I should have said is "I want to learn how to play the drums" not the crummy piano they got for me and the subsequent 14 years of not getting laid. In my defense I was five at the time (I'm 32 now) and really didn't know how to articulate myself. The moral of that story is I'm not worried about not sticking with it,...but now that I live in my own house,....I'm ready to start learning and getting good.

I guess the most important thing for me is the snare sound. I like a lot of ghost notes (think Drum and Bass or Medeski, Martin and Wood) and really want to be able to hear them over the rest of the cacophony. I also want to develop a really relaxed and efficient style (again MMW here, Billy Martin tops my favorite drummer list) and while I appreciate a drummer that can thrash a drumset and beat the shit out of it,....that's not what I'm after. Back to the snare sound though; I'm sure that's going to boil down to the type and quality of the head and how the snares are setup as much as to the type of snare drum used, I'm not opposed to tinkering and trial and error. Might also be a lot to do with recording as far as the sounds in my head.