Elements owners... question on the Mix control

[Skattabrain]

So the idea of using an expression pedal to go from clean to distorted in a very natural, graduated way sounds fantastic. I do this in Guitar Rig... I set a clean tone on channel A and a distorted one channel B and mix the 2 as needed... it's a great trick.

Anyways... my question... on the Elements... when you take the mix to zero (so it's essentially totally clean), what is your tone like? Is it as if the pedal was bypassed or does it have some unique signature sound, noise, hiss to it... I'm thinking to get one and leaving it on all the time, then using an expression pedal to go to my dirt tone instead of using the toggle.

Thoughts?

[bronzetalon]

Totally your clean tone as if there was a buffer on all the time. I don't think the eq affects the clean tone either only the gain part of the pedal. My Ryan should weigh in on this...or I could try it out real quick.

[sylnau]

Just buffer, nothing else (no EQ). Totaly clean.

[oinkbanana]

I like that the EQ is in the mix and not the clean
ryan!

[Skattabrain]

ok, thanks for the info. sounds like a plan then... now I need to plan out a good expression pedal.

[sylnau]

I like that the EQ is in the mix and not the clean
ryan!

+1

ok, thanks for the info. sounds like a plan then... now I need to plan out a good expression pedal.

Moog

[Skattabrain]

All I know is all you boutique pedal manufactures need to be paying some sort of royalty on each pedal sold to Andy... man this opening riff has me gassin'!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byD6l1km ... ure=relmfu

[oinkbanana]

i'm sure TGP pays andy handsomely.


this is such a classy looking pedal in black on black.
makes all my other pedals feel like goof-offs.
i'm still finding great sounds in here. thanks ryan!

[Ryan]

Thanks guys, you're very clean blend knowledgeable!

Awesome to hear you're still digging it, Kev!

[seamuppet]

I just received an expression pedal and I'm trying to control the mix on the Elements ...

I can't set it so that the xpr pedal just increases the mix (i.e. amount of gain the gain knob is set for, yes?) ... I mean it does do that, but it also increases the volume, and when I back off the xpr pedal it's the reverse, less gain but really less volume--to the point that heel totally down on xpr pedal=no signal, zero, with no other effects engaged or engaged effects before and/or after the Elements. Sound=gone.

I've searched around for info on this but can't find any. Hopefully it's not on the sheet the Elements came with because I misplaced that immediately upon opening the box for the first time. I don't recall any in-depth info on this though.

If this should have been a new thread I don't mind if it's moved, but this seemed like the right place to ask my question.

Thank you!

[Ryan]

Welcome to the forum, seamuppet, and thanks for picking up an Elmeents! This is a fine place for this question, no worries.

Let's start with what kind of expression pedal you're using... does it have 2 rings at the end of the plug or just 1 ring?

[seamuppet]

Thanks for following up ... I have a Mission Engineering expression pedal and am using TRS cables. This particular pedal can control two other pedals, if that makes a difference. You step the toe down like a wah and click to choose which one you'll control, so there are two outputs. I've tried the TRS cable to the Elements in both, same results.

[Ryan]

Ok, SM, thanks to you too for the extra info and let's see... so when you don't have an expression pedal plugged into your expression jack your mix knob works normally, right? Dry signal with the pot all the way down and wet with with the pot all the way up? I'm assuming yes and this makes me wonder if maybe your Mission pedal is intended for use as a volume pedal and has one pot lug going to ground. (I'm assuming this since if your mix knob is working normally then it means the expression jack is normal as well.) It would cause your symptom too, grounding at one extreme and killing the signal completely.

Can you try a different TRS expression pedal?

[seamuppet]

Unfortunately don't have another expression pedal--ordered this one almost a month ago and just got it yesterday! They said they were moving or something...anyway: I tried it on a fuzz w/ CV in and delay w/ CV in ... it works great on both, adding or taking away the effect respectively but not altering the volume.

On the Elements, yes, w/ no expression pedal, mix knob seems to work normally, dry all the way down, wet all the way up. But--

I'm not sure if this is normal, but with the volume knob anywhere past 9 o'clock or so, when the mix is turned up, the volume goes up along with it, pretty significantly.

And the Mission pedal is explicitly intended for use as an expression pedal, not volume ...

Am I supposed to insert the TRS cable with the power on the Elements off? Press the switch while I insert it? Anything I'm not doing right in terms of basic connections?

[sylnau]

Just tried mine... no volume drop when turning the mix knob.
Unfortunately, I don't have an expression pedal a the moment.