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Fuzz>Bassballs(or vice versa) question

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:49 am
by Big Mon
Hey guys,I'm gonna be on the market for an EHX Bassballs soon. Is anybody currently using with,either before or after a fuzz? Let me pose a hypothetical here:
I plan on running the following:
MXR Blue Box>Devi US>FH Phantom Octave>bassballs(?)>DOD 440>Mellowtone Singing tree(just the fuzz/dirt/filter section of the board I'm envisioning). Any experiences with a really loud fuzz fed into a Bassballs? Clips? :idk:

Re: Fuzz>Bassballs(or vice versa) question

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:55 am
by Bassboar
Really loud fuzz teds to just force the envelope open and keep it there. In my experience, filters work better in front of everything else, so your dynamics can come through better. Just me though.

Re: Fuzz>Bassballs(or vice versa) question

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:57 am
by Mudfuzz
blooghost wrote: Any experiences with a really loud fuzz fed into a Bassballs? Clips? :idk:

I'll see what I can do a little later.

Re: Fuzz>Bassballs(or vice versa) question

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:59 am
by Big Mon
Bassboar wrote:Really loud fuzz teds to just force the envelope open and keep it there. In my experience, filters work better in front of everything else, so your dynamics can come through better. Just me though.

Would it make any difference if I was gonna use with guitar? Also,having used a US>DOD envelope follower before,with the sensitivity turned down way low(on the filter),it sounded like the LAL Rattle Crow a good bit. :cool: And I'd most likely use the Balls on a low-intensity setting.
Mudfuzz wrote:
blooghost wrote: Any experiences with a really loud fuzz fed into a Bassballs? Clips? :idk:

I'll see what I can do a little later.

:hug:

Re: Fuzz>Bassballs(or vice versa) question

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:38 am
by Rygot
I know using a volume pedal before it makes for a foot controlled filter. :cool:

Re: Fuzz>Bassballs(or vice versa) question

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:48 pm
by Jero
Should have never sold my bassballs :( it's about time for a new one. I liked having it before fuzz, but am sure it depends on what you're using.

Re: Fuzz>Bassballs(or vice versa) question

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:50 pm
by Big Mon
Rygot wrote:I know using a volume pedal before it makes for a foot controlled filter. :cool:

Brilliant! I've never thought of owning a volume pedal before. Maybe it's time I started.

Re: Fuzz>Bassballs(or vice versa) question

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 3:01 pm
by Bassboar
blooghost wrote:
Bassboar wrote:Really loud fuzz teds to just force the envelope open and keep it there. In my experience, filters work better in front of everything else, so your dynamics can come through better. Just me though.

Would it make any difference if I was gonna use with guitar? Also,having used a US>DOD envelope follower before,with the sensitivity turned down way low(on the filter),it sounded like the LAL Rattle Crow a good bit. :cool: And I'd most likely use the Balls on a low-intensity setting.
I imagine it may make a difference, I have never played a US so I dont know, the volume pedal idea sounds good.

Re: Fuzz>Bassballs(or vice versa) question

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:12 pm
by rfurtkamp
I kept the settings on the Bluebox and the Bassballs identical through switch-flipping on a nice, reasonable response curve. Guitar is a Classic Player Jag HH, pickups are stupid hot, into a Hot Rod Deluxe.

Gtr > Russian Black Bassballs (halfway) > Bluebox (3:00, fuzz more than octave) > HRD.

0:13 Bluebox on
0:30 Bassballs on (dist off)
0:50 Bassballs (dist on)

[soundcloud]http://soundcloud.com/rfurtkamp/mxr-bluebox-ehx-bassballs[/soundcloud]

Oops, I left the Timebender on low too on the second.

[soundcloud]http://soundcloud.com/rfurtkamp/ehx-bassballs-mxr-bluebox-demo[/soundcloud]

:15 Bassballs (dist off)
:30 step on Bluebox (3:00)
1:00 dist switch on Bassballs
1:20 fade in GR-55 guitar synth 303 bass. Cheating, I know.

I'm not really a fan of Bassballs > Bluebox at all unless I want that particular sound. With the Bluebox in particular, the gate means that it doesn't sustain for squat and the filter is just on as mentioned.

Re: Fuzz>Bassballs(or vice versa) question

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:33 pm
by Big Mon
Hey,thanks man! I know you said yr not a fan,but both of those clips sounded really good to me.

Re: Fuzz>Bassballs(or vice versa) question

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:54 pm
by Mudfuzz
Ok I'm going to try and record a clip tonight... So what do you want me to run into the thing?

Re: Fuzz>Bassballs(or vice versa) question

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:59 pm
by Big Mon
Mudfuzz wrote:Ok I'm going to try and record a clip tonight... So what do you want me to run into the thing?

ok,since I got a nice clip of the 'balls and a bl00 b0x,I'll be using with a US,which is really fuckin' loud. And a Phantom Ocyave. So,s Devi and a Phantom Octave>bass balls/or with balls first in the chain. :hug:

Re: Fuzz>Bassballs(or vice versa) question

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:50 am
by Mudfuzz
[soundcloud]http://soundcloud.com/mudfuzz/bassballstotothewall[/soundcloud]

Re: Fuzz>Bassballs(or vice versa) question

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:17 pm
by Big Mon
totally fuckin' helped! That was nasty! Also helped me conclude that I need to get an OK again lol,thanks!

Re: Fuzz>Bassballs(or vice versa) question

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:24 pm
by Mudfuzz
:thumb: :hug:
Oh.. I used a black Sovtek one if that matters... Also: there are trim pots inside the pedal which are key to dialing it in.