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Looking for Live Low Volume Feedback

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:05 pm
by digitalzombie
Hey everyone. I'm trying to achieve a good low volume feedback for noise/sound scapes. I was able to achieve this myself while recording by running a Swollen Pickle jumbo fuzz into "More Drive" channel on my Hot Rod Deville with the amp gain cranked but the master volume nice and low. Only problem with trying to this sound live, it would basically render the drive channel on my amp useless for 'normal' playing.

This is for my second guitarist who is more or less dedicated to noise/sound scapes in our project, and he doesn't really have anything crazy on his board. As far as drive pedals go, he has a Fulltone OCD, a Malekko Omicron Fuzz, and Dwarfcraft Great Destroyer, all running into a Fryette Sig X (very transparent amp).

So my question is, what could be added/tweaked to get a good controlled feedback without deafening everyone (think Autolux - Turnstile Blues at the 0:58 mark in this video)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g6VdXbI_3s[/youtube]

Thanks in advance for the help!

Re: Looking for Live Low Volume Feedback

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:19 pm
by Officer Bukowski
That sounds like an oscillating fuzz. My Fuzz Factory sounds a lot like that.

It also kinda sounds like he made a short loop of the oscillation, turned off the fuzz, got his other pedals ready for the next part, and then switched off the loop to segway into the next part. It's hard to tell though. Whatever it was, it was really cool sounding. So was the following guitar part.

Re: Looking for Live Low Volume Feedback

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:31 pm
by insubordination
Both of the dudes in Autolux's boards are on that celebrity pedalboard Tumblr, so if you really wanted the answer you could figure it out from that. Great band, not as crazy about "Transit Transit" as "Future Perfect," but the latter is a desert-island record for me, and they are outstanding live.

Re: Looking for Live Low Volume Feedback

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:49 pm
by tashiattack
Love this band!

Re: Looking for Live Low Volume Feedback

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:51 pm
by D.o.S.
Use the volume knob. If all you're doing is making noise, set the pedals to all sorts of feedback-y, sustain-y freakness and adjust yr volume knob to taste.

Or you could use a volume pedal if you'd rather have both your hands free.

Re: Looking for Live Low Volume Feedback

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:20 pm
by sonidero
If you can't get feedback outta The Great Destroyer start playin Tuba... :thumb:

Re: Looking for Live Low Volume Feedback

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:46 pm
by theavondon
sonidero wrote:If you can't get feedback outta The Great Destroyer start playin Tuba... :thumb:

I was gonna say, to say that he's got nothing crazy and then say "oh he's got a TGD" is a bit of a contradiction.

Re: Looking for Live Low Volume Feedback

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:12 pm
by sonidero
Yep, look at this friggin amp... I'd say turn some knobs and mess with pedal placement... There's gotta be a channel on that amp that'll work for simple ol feedback... Compressors before fuzz... My ooh la la Torn's Peaker and Dr. Scientist Frazz Dazz do good low vol feedback, but by looking at that list I'd say you're already there...

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Re: Looking for Live Low Volume Feedback

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:45 pm
by Officer Bukowski
OSCILLATION

Re: Looking for Live Low Volume Feedback

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:53 pm
by futuresailors
Y u want low volume?

Re: Looking for Live Low Volume Feedback

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:59 pm
by bigchiefbc
A compressor can help you get feedback, too. When I use my Philosopher's Tone before a gain pedal, I can usually get walls of effortless feedback.

Re: Looking for Live Low Volume Feedback

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:30 pm
by masked elwood
sonidero wrote:Yep, look at this friggin amp... I'd say turn some knobs and mess with pedal placement... There's gotta be a channel on that amp that'll work for simple ol feedback... Compressors before fuzz... My ooh la la Torn's Peaker and Dr. Scientist Frazz Dazz do good low vol feedback, but by looking at that list I'd say you're already there...

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firstly....great band !!! :hug:

with the gear you listed i'm finding it hard to believe you can't get what you're looking for. i'd keep experimenting......and if not, then sell that amp.

Re: Looking for Live Low Volume Feedback

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:57 pm
by D.o.S.
Duder definitely shouldn't have to sell that amp or buy anything else.

I guess if he didn't really want to work that hard at all he could just pick up a cheapo feedback looper.

Re: Looking for Live Low Volume Feedback

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:26 pm
by theavondon
maz91379 wrote:holy knobs and switches batman

Re: Looking for Live Low Volume Feedback

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:37 am
by Astricii
Almost all of greg edwards drive comes from his vht pitbull head. Clean is the fender twin.

That's a mix of high gain low master vol. Osc. Delay controled with exp pedal( line6 echo pro basically a rack mount dl4 with 100 presets) and of course, his pure genius. His pedals during the future perfect era were mostly controled by midi loop switchers. That allowed him to turn on a fuzz, delay set to a specific tempo, change his amp/gain channel all with one stomp.

End uber fan geek out.

Also, torn's peaker. All the controlable feedback you could want.