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Year4545 Question ?

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:59 pm
by sylnau
What is the difference between the old "small enclosure" Year4545 and the new one with two stomp?
Is the blend knob a must for guitar (for bass yes... but for guitar)?
Can you get non-oscillating fuzz too with it?

I'm sure I'll have some SS/BS on my board one day. I won't resist.

Re: Year4545 Question ?

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:10 am
by Eric!
I will answer the best I can! I feel pretty capable of this :) but I'm issuing a tl;dr warning! And pardon my typos, I will fix them as I find them

The small ones only have four knobs...x osc, y osc, master volume, and "tracking/saturation" where the two stomp basic model has four knobs as well, the usual x osc, y osc, and master volume, but instead, it has a "texture" knob, which is just code for input gain.

The 4545 is VERY responsive to volume and dynamics, and lowering the in-going volume a bit adds a bit more gated nature, and makes it less full boar. It doesn't exactly clean up, it just..tames it a bit. Having it as a knob as opposed to having to rely on other means (pedals before it, or your guitar volume) definitely has its advantages, such as not having to turn something down just for a tamer sound. You can keep your guitar volume at 11 (on a scale from 1-10) and not worry about any mid-performance tinkerings.

Both models feature two three-way toggles for x osc range and y osc range as well (low, mid, and high for each), but the new version has a two-way toggle for the old tracking/saturation, last I knew at full max and full min. On my old custom 4545, I had him install trimmers for either extent of the toggle, because my favorite position was around 1 o'clock, and I also heavily favor around 9 o' clock. I really favor the tracking on a knob. That's why on my custom 6-knobber, I requested tracking be a knob, and so be put the input gain on a two-way toggle (full on, and a trimmer to lower it some. Very handy, because on some settings, it gets a bit of these envelopy, squelchy thingies, and if I wanna rid of them, flick a toggle!).

My custom one is interesting. I've played a total of four different versions before I got this incarnate of one that isn't going ANYWHERE, and there's a very good reason. In my opinion, the old, smaller batch or two of 4545s had more full tonal range, and in my opinion, more power. Now, I'm NOT a subtle guy..I like to fuck shit up. My pedalboard is my custom 4545, a xerograph deluxe (with expression pedal), and a superdelay, all in the loop of a Chk Chk Boom. I make lots of noise, and I enjoy every second of it. Brian is amazing, because he transplanted the PCB from my very first (and favorite sounding) 4545 that was originally sent it for a small tweak fix, into a new enclosure, decked out with every feature he could think of*, to the point where since I wanted it in a small enclosure, he actually advised me to NOT open up the back of the pedal. And he knows I'm a tweaker, and I ALWAYS do that to every pedal I get my hands. But I must resist.

And then obviously there's the gate stomp. Brian developed the most natural-feeling gate out there. Behndy's been LOVING it on his TAFM (the first one to also feature this gate), and others are jumping on board, getting this gate installed. The 4545 is what started that. The first gate I had on a 4545, I had to send back to him, because it was fucked. What he developed in that time is absolutely gorgeous. It will still bleed through and oscillate on some settings, but I think it's fun!

Is the blend necessary? Honestly not, in my opinion. I love raunchy full-boar in your face noise. The blend IS nice for bass, and maybe for guitar(?), as I like to use it to cover lots more ground (it's my only fuzz at the moment, and I have NO problem having it any other way). And I do enjoy my clean tone a good deal :)

Non-oscillating fuzz? Like how? Like, muffy, or something? I don't...know? It can get thick and woolly, if that's your concern. I get it thundering some sub-bass frequencies through my 15" cab, too. It can do a lot! I wouldn't recommend it to everyone if I didn't whole-heartedly stand behind it.

Brian really hit a home run with it. It's SO good.

Words of advice? If you find an OG one, snatch it up, give it an honest whirl. Let it encompass you. I hope you love it. It changed my musical style. For the better, I feel. It's a core of "my sound."



*deets on my custom:
Top row of knobs: tracking, fuzz volume, clean volume
Bottom row of knobs: X osc, Y osc, hi-cut (passive treble cut)
Toggle row: 3-way x osc, 3-way y osc, 2-way input gain
Stomps: Gate and Bypass
And he knows I have a 'thing for greeny stuff' so he made it FUCKING GORGEOUS. And that I absolutely adore the "radio knobs." And the serial number is: boop

Re: Year4545 Question ?

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:27 am
by sylnau
Thanks, very good description... I want a weird fuzz... but still musical.
I like some demo on Youtube of the old version.
I might go for one of those silver "no paint" finish on FuzzHugger (it's the bigger model with the gate stomp).
Or maybe a custom one.

Re: Year4545 Question ?

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:59 am
by smallsnd/bigsnd
yep eric pretty much covered all of the bases there. :thumb:

as far as the blend goes, i guess it really depends on what you want to get out of the fuzz... while it can definitely do some "normal" wooly fuzzes and work pretty well with chords, it excels at single notes to 2 notes. complex chords will get really mushy and weird, so i suppose the clean blend would be extremely useful there.

Re: Year4545 Question ?

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:08 pm
by Eric!
sylnau wrote:Thanks, very good description... I want a weird fuzz... but still musical.
I like some demo on Youtube of the old version.
I might go for one of those silver "no paint" finish on FuzzHugger (it's the bigger model with the gate stomp).
Or maybe a custom one.


Weird but musical? That's one way I would describe my experiences with the 4545. Your results may vary, though. :thumb:

Brian does some amazing custom work..he'll basically build you whatever the hell you want, and make it better than you expect!

Re: Year4545 Question ?

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:52 pm
by sylnau
Eric, your custom Year4545 seems perfect.
Which pedal should I put for sale. :facepalm:

Re: Year4545 Question ?

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:14 pm
by Eric!
YOU WILL NEVER HAVE MINE.

Re: Year4545 Question ?

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:19 pm
by sylnau
Hmmmmmm... not sure yet, but maybe your 4545 will have a brother one day.

Re: Year4545 Question ?

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:21 pm
by Eric!
Well, I'd recommend picking one up, first!

Re: Year4545 Question ?

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:39 pm
by coldbrightsunlight
Been considering getting one of these for a while, after that description I might have to order one set up like yours if I can decide what to sell to pay for it...

I also love those knobs, got some on my TAFM and they're hella sweet.

Re: Year4545 Question ?

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:58 pm
by Eric!
I've been pimping Brian out forever, so he decided to go above and beyond with this one. Dunno if he'll wanna be transplanting stuff all the time, but he just might accommodate some special requests. I am a ss/bs WHORE. :D

Re: Year4545 Question ?

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:30 pm
by sylnau
monkeydancer wrote:Been considering getting one of these for a while, after that description I might have to order one set up like yours if I can decide what to sell to pay for it...

Same here, I sent an email to Brian to know the price.

Edit: typo

Re: Year4545 Question ?

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:31 pm
by coldbrightsunlight
There are much worse dudes to whore yourself out for! :thumb: Thinking about it, if I get one all I would really want is the basic thing plus clean blend. Gates are cool but not really necessary, at least for me, and the tone thing, meh.

Or maybe I should just save my pennies for whatever brian cooks up next, since it's all really good. Maybe wait until he makes that delay... :drool:

Re: Year4545 Question ?

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:33 pm
by sylnau
monkeydancer wrote:There are much worse dudes to whore yourself out for! :thumb: Thinking about it, if I get one all I would really want is the basic thing plus clean blend. Gates are cool but not really necessary, at least for me, and the tone thing, meh.

Or maybe I should just save my pennies for whatever brian cooks up next, since it's all really good. Maybe wait until he makes that delay... :drool:

SS/BS Delay... I'm dreaming of this!!!

Re: Year4545 Question ?

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:07 pm
by magiclawnchair
Eric! wrote:YOU WILL NEVER HAVE MINE. IT WILL PROBABLY BE SOLD TO MLC SOMEDAY AS HE IS A PIMP...


:excellent: