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I got an octave pedal a few weeks ago from The4455 and I was wondering, can using it as an octave down fuck up my guitar amp at higher volumes?

Probably not. I play bass through a guitar amp and I haven't had anything happen yet.

I've always worried about this too. But I think if you're pushing it that hard, it's just as likely that you're normal signal's getting close to fucking up your amp. But really I'm guessing so I'd take it easy, but I run all kinds of octave down stuff into my amps and nothing has happened yet, so

Well, does it sound like the speakers are gonna break?

No... the only possible way is if you push your speaker too hard and damage the cone which means very high volumes or you have an iccle speaker... still unlikely unless it actually sounds like it can't take it though as the avon said...

The circuitry wont care.

If it is a open back cab and you are playing really loud then answer is yes. Ever notice there are NO open back bass cabs? That is why.

Mudfuzz wrote:If it is a open back cab and you are playing really loud then answer is yes. Ever notice there are NO open back bass cabs? That is why.

My friends Laney Bass Cab is open back... sounds like crap but it is, that's to do with Frequency response not exploding speakers... there is an air factor but it wont really play too much here I wouldn't have thought.

A guitar in a bass pedal isn't quite the same as an actual bass.

A speaker is rated for what it can take, guitar speakers may damage over time from too much bass as they're not built for it at high volumes, but in general, you're probably all good, otherwise, bass emulator pedals would come with warnings... you think companies want those sort of complaints?

Scruffie wrote:

Mudfuzz wrote:If it is a open back cab and you are playing really loud then answer is yes. Ever notice there are NO open back bass cabs? That is why.

My friends Laney Bass Cab is open back... sounds like crap but it is, that's to do with Frequency response not exploding speakers... there is an air factor but it wont really play too much here I wouldn't have thought.

A guitar in a bass pedal isn't quite the same as an actual bass.

A speaker is rated for what it can take, guitar speakers may damage over time from too much bass as they're not built for it at high volumes, but in general, you're probably all good, otherwise, bass emulator pedals would come with warnings... you think companies want those sort of complaints?

Interesting.. I was always told that open backs and bass = death
Also depends on what you call loud... I have destroyed "guitar" speakers with a bass umm 2 200w EVs.. took me like 10 minutes Actally "I" didn't think I was was being very loud

Yea, you're more likely to mess up the speakers than the amp. I wouldn't worry about it too much though, unless you're speakers start farting out...might sound cool.

Mudfuzz wrote:

Scruffie wrote:

Mudfuzz wrote:If it is a open back cab and you are playing really loud then answer is yes. Ever notice there are NO open back bass cabs? That is why.

My friends Laney Bass Cab is open back... sounds like crap but it is, that's to do with Frequency response not exploding speakers... there is an air factor but it wont really play too much here I wouldn't have thought.

A guitar in a bass pedal isn't quite the same as an actual bass.

A speaker is rated for what it can take, guitar speakers may damage over time from too much bass as they're not built for it at high volumes, but in general, you're probably all good, otherwise, bass emulator pedals would come with warnings... you think companies want those sort of complaints?

Interesting.. I was always told that open backs and bass = death
Also depends on what you call loud... I have destroyed "guitar" speakers with a bass umm 2 200w EVs.. took me like 10 minutes Actally "I" didn't think I was was being very loud

His is still alive and sounding like turd! Maybe that explains it, it died and no one noticed But he has used it live and the speaker really is fine, just some 120w solid state work horse he picked up because he didn't care about it having beer spilt all down it.

Yeah an actual bass probably can rupture the cone at loud enough volumes but bass pedals for guitar never give that much low end, even at high volumes, if they did... bass players would be being replaced by crappy guitar players with bass pedals... well atleast more often than they are now.

Scruffie wrote:Yeah an actual bass probably can rupture the cone at loud enough volumes but bass pedals for guitar never give that much low end, even at high volumes, if they did... bass players would be being replaced by crappy guitar players with bass pedals... well atleast more often than they are now.

I think I have blown/ripped.. 4 speakers over the years One time a magnet came off one:lol: I epoxyed it back on at it worked I know this may sound odd but If a guitarist with a octaver can do a actual better job for the gig then more power to them, on the other hand if you do that chances are you just might be a bass player...

Mudfuzz wrote:

Scruffie wrote:Yeah an actual bass probably can rupture the cone at loud enough volumes but bass pedals for guitar never give that much low end, even at high volumes, if they did... bass players would be being replaced by crappy guitar players with bass pedals... well atleast more often than they are now.

I think I have blown/ripped.. 4 speakers over the years One time a magnet came off one:lol: I epoxyed it back on at it worked I know this may sound odd but If a guitarist with a octaver can do a actual better job for the gig then more power to them, on the other hand if you do that chances are you just might be a bass player...

Nice

Yeah... it's never quite the same though, it works in a pinch, i've used my micro pog to fill in before... but you can't beat a good bass player, it lacks that low end growl and comes off as forced almost... and you loose the bass playing dynamics.

I mean if emulated bass is your intention it works a treat (White stripes I guess?) but I wouldn't completely replace a bass player with one if I wanted a proper bass player.

Mudfuzz wrote:

Scruffie wrote:Yeah an actual bass probably can rupture the cone at loud enough volumes but bass pedals for guitar never give that much low end, even at high volumes, if they did... bass players would be being replaced by crappy guitar players with bass pedals... well atleast more often than they are now.

...I know this may sound odd but If a guitarist with a octaver can do a actual better job for the gig then more power to them, on the other hand if you do that chances are you just might be a bass player...

s'funny but that was Leo's original idea behing the Esquire -- he recloned guitarists would replace bass players (he was right of course, just that the ydid it with the P bass, not the telecaster). So there's one bassy tone in there so you can fire the guy with the doghouse.

devnulljp wrote:

Mudfuzz wrote:

Scruffie wrote:Yeah an actual bass probably can rupture the cone at loud enough volumes but bass pedals for guitar never give that much low end, even at high volumes, if they did... bass players would be being replaced by crappy guitar players with bass pedals... well atleast more often than they are now.

...I know this may sound odd but If a guitarist with a octaver can do a actual better job for the gig then more power to them, on the other hand if you do that chances are you just might be a bass player...

s'funny but that was Leo's original idea behing the Esquire -- he recloned guitarists would replace bass players (he was right of course, just that the ydid it with the P bass, not the telecaster). So there's one bassy tone in there so you can fire the guy with the doghouse.

True, you can flip that though with the idea behind the twelve string bass, which was to eliminate the need for a rhythm guitarist....

i have a 2x12 for my bass rig where i can open half of the back. i think, it sounds better open.