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Random Delay
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:12 pm
by oldangelmidnight
Is there a delay that has a setting that would make the delay repeats happen at random intervals? Like someone adjusting the time knob between each repeat. The closest I can get is the multi-head setting with a weird ratio on the Headrush.
Re: Random Delay
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:13 pm
by culturejam
I think it would require some kind of digital controller to randomly set the delay time. You can use some kind of LFO, but you'll get pitch bends as the delay time itself is modulated.
Re: Random Delay
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:17 pm
by jrmy
culturejam wrote:I think it would require some kind of digital controller to randomly set the delay time. You can use some kind of LFO, but you'll get pitch bends as the delay time itself is modulated.
Shoot - I'd be interested in THAT (randomized delay with pitch-bend artifacts). Especially if the range of randomization could be controlled.
Re: Random Delay
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:24 pm
by Toonster
Something like this on the Deluxe Memory Boy? Look from 4:30
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_rVa9Hnrsc[/youtube]
Re: Random Delay
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:47 pm
by cloudscapes
Re: Random Delay
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:49 pm
by Bellyheart
Yep. Deluxe Memory boy is your answer
Re: Random Delay
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:05 pm
by kosta
If you want to get all crazy about it (and expensive) - you can modulate the delay time on the Moogerfooger delay with control voltage, so if you patch some sample & hold voltage into the time input in the back it will do what you describe. SO just run out and get you a MF-104z and a CP-251 and BOOM - all set. See? Simple.

Or just wait for this:
cloudscapes wrote::idea:
Re: Random Delay
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:39 pm
by oldangelmidnight
cloudscapes wrote::idea:
YES!
Re: Random Delay
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:42 pm
by oldangelmidnight
Toonster wrote:Something like this on the Deluxe Memory Boy? Look from 4:30
That's close but I want random changes, rather than increasing intervals.
Re: Random Delay
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:59 pm
by kosta
So you're going to recreate TONTO? Sweet!!!

Re: Random Delay
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:55 am
by oldangelmidnight
kosta wrote:If you want to get all crazy about it (and expensive) - you can modulate the delay time on the Moogerfooger delay with control voltage, so if you patch some sample & hold voltage into the time input in the back it will do what you describe. SO just run out and get you a MF-104z and a CP-251 and BOOM - all set. See? Simple.

The Boss DSD-2 can also do triggered delays so if there's an inexpensive randomizing triggerer, that would work.
Re: Random Delay
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:13 am
by Astricii
Besides the Moog 104z and CP251 combo... I'm not sure you're going to get true random without building something yourself. easiest would be arduino based with the extension ad/da converter board. (still not cheap and you gotta program it)
thought about the digitech time bender?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0bZsXmKWEA&t=2m35sClick link to jump right to the part I'm talking about. you can strum the delay pattern you want. (not random but kind of even cooler than that since you can program your delay intervals yourself)
Re: Random Delay
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:03 am
by Achtane
I'm probably wrong, but doesn't the Haunting Mids delay do something like this? Seems like I read that the delay time is affected by how strong of an input you give it.
Re: Random Delay
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:19 am
by oldangelmidnight
Astricii wrote:Besides the Moog 104z and CP251 combo... I'm not sure you're going to get true random without building something yourself. easiest would be arduino based with the extension ad/da converter board. (still not cheap and you gotta program it)
thought about the digitech time bender?
I've been thinking about getting into Arduino for effects; it seems like there's a lot of potential. I'm not really sure where to start with that, though.
I've got a Timebender and it's pretty good but the strum pattern can only be 7 beats.
Re: Random Delay
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:27 am
by smallsnd/bigsnd
culturejam wrote:I think it would require some kind of digital controller to randomly set the delay time. You can use some kind of LFO, but you'll get pitch bends as the delay time itself is modulated.
you could use a s&h in place of the LFO, though you'll most likely still get some bending/portamento between times depending on what type of control you use. i've been thinking about this for a looooong time...
