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Suggestions for Splattey Vintage Fuzz Replacement

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:23 am
by zahosale
I have always been a big fan of MI Audio's Neo Fuzz for my go to splattey vintage fuzz tone, but I have accidentally broken it. I figure now might be a good time for a change and too step out of my box. Does anyone have any recommendations for a good pedal replacement. However I am tempted to buy their new Version 2 Neo Fuzz, because the pedals are just fantastic. I am well aware of the holy grails ala Analogman Sunfaces, Fulltone 69, etc. Feel free to let me know. Ideally I am looking to have 3 fuzzes on my board. A muffey modern fuzz (which is taken care of with my dwarfcraft eau clair thunder and/or BYOC Triangle Muff Large beaver), a octave-up (which is taken care of by my fulltone ultimate octave), and a splattier vintage voiced fuzz (which WAS taken care of by my Neo). I have also been trying to figure out the difference between germanium and silicon voicing. I know the difference between the two, but the more I look at fuzz videos some germanium fuzzes sound more like silicons and vice versa. Does this have anything to do with the number of transistors? For example, I noticed a 3 germanium transistor fuzz sounds much nastier(in a great way) than a 2 germanium transistor fuzz. Thanks!

Re: Suggestions for Splattey Vintage Fuzz Replacement

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:39 am
by Gunner Recall
Check out the blackout effectors fix'd fuzz...fuzz 2 gets real splatty, and when you stack it with fuzz 1 you get a great exploding amp sound (it's also got a switchable tone/boost :omg:)

As far as germ vs silicon...silicons are generally a bit harsher, the distortion has a hard clipped kinda sound. Lots of output.
Germanium is usually lower output with a warmer/less clinical tone.

Both have their places, just different flavors of the amazing little thing we call fuzz.

About the # of transistors...for me it seems it's more about what the builder was going for.
My EQD dream crusher is a germ 2 transistor fuzz that just CRUSHES most of my other 3/4 transistors fuzz boxes as far as nastiness/gain goes

Re: Suggestions for Splattey Vintage Fuzz Replacement

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:06 am
by zahosale
I do like the blackout effectors stuff, I have an original (#28) musket. Maybe I'll check out the fix'd. I however just saw that Fulltone is reissuing the 69 as the 69 MKII, which is going to rule. It will only be two hundred bones. He is also putting the soulbender back into production two, which also has that great square fuzz sound I love.

Re: Suggestions for Splattey Vintage Fuzz Replacement

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:12 am
by Gunner Recall
All the dudes who shelled out big bucks for the slight return are probably kicking themselves (I saw one going for like $1k at one point)...the '69 MKII is supposed to be the same as the SR.
I'd like to check one out if they aren't going to be unobtainium.

Re: Suggestions for Splattey Vintage Fuzz Replacement

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:45 am
by Don
My Fulltone '69 Pedal (built in 1999, I bought it about 10 years ago) is not very splatty. I was disappointed in that at first, but the pedal cleans up so well with the guitar's volume that it has been the foundation of my pedalboard (I use it as an overdrive, fuzz and distortion pedal) for 10 years!

My splattiest fuzz is my Fulltone Octafuzz with the octave turned off. With the right guitar and amp it even makes good zipper and velcro sounds.

Re: Suggestions for Splattey Vintage Fuzz Replacement

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:37 pm
by zahosale
Good to know. Even with the contour knob (which I think is essentially a bias knob right) you can't dial in a lot of splat?

Re: Suggestions for Splattey Vintage Fuzz Replacement

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:30 pm
by Don
zahosale wrote:Good to know. Even with the contour knob (which I think is essentially a bias knob right) you can't dial in a lot of splat?


The contour knob seems to control mids. It has a bias knob (as well as an internal trimmer) but mine never gets what I'd call "splatty".

Re: Suggestions for Splattey Vintage Fuzz Replacement

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:22 pm
by edkoppel
I have recommended this to a lot of people, but this pedal is amazing!
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its John/Basic Audio's deluxe version of the Univox Squarewave.
It can do everything from a sputtery Tonebender MKI to the Maestro to a thick velcro squarewave and it has a switch to take out the clipping diodes which brings it into a sweet raunchy 70s fuzzy overdrive like Neil Young type stuff.
here's some samples he recorded, but it can do way more, especially when you crank it:
http://www.basicaudio.net/Squarewave-deluxe.mp3

http://www.basicaudio.net/Squarewave-bass.mp3

highly recommended for all your sputtery needs. :!!!:

Re: Suggestions for Splattey Vintage Fuzz Replacement

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:48 pm
by sylnau
edkoppel wrote:I have recommended this to a lot of people, but this pedal is amazing!
Image

its John/Basic Audio's deluxe version of the Univox Squarewave.
It can do everything from a sputtery Tonebender MKI to the Maestro to a thick velcro squarewave and it has a switch to take out the clipping diodes which brings it into a sweet raunchy 70s fuzzy overdrive like Neil Young type stuff.
here's some samples he recorded, but it can do way more, especially when you crank it:
http://www.basicaudio.net/Squarewave-deluxe.mp3

http://www.basicaudio.net/Squarewave-bass.mp3

highly recommended for all your sputtery needs. :!!!:

I liket it :thumb:
Is this pedal still in production... I don't see it on basicaudio.net?

Re: Suggestions for Splattey Vintage Fuzz Replacement

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:31 pm
by bob the r0bot
if you set them up right, wolf computers deliver teh splatz

Re: Suggestions for Splattey Vintage Fuzz Replacement

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:03 pm
by zahosale
I have not seen it on the basic audio site either. It looks like they do have some pretty cool stuff though.

Re: Suggestions for Splattey Vintage Fuzz Replacement

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:05 pm
by sylnau
zahosale wrote:I have not seen it on the basic audio site either. It looks like they do have some pretty cool stuff though.

Gnarly Fuzz look interesting too!!

Re: Suggestions for Splattey Vintage Fuzz Replacement

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:11 pm
by edkoppel
sylnau wrote:I liket it :thumb:
Is this pedal still in production... I don't see it on basicaudio.net?

just email john through the BA site and he'll make it for you.
I sent him my original Univox to make a clone and he asked me if I wanted a Frankenstein version, so of course I said yes!
I have a ton of fuzz pedals and this one is in my top 3 for sure.
:thumb:

Re: Suggestions for Splattey Vintage Fuzz Replacement

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:44 am
by zahosale
what does something like that typically run?

Re: Suggestions for Splattey Vintage Fuzz Replacement

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:12 am
by sylnau
edkoppel wrote:I have recommended this to a lot of people, but this pedal is amazing!
Image

its John/Basic Audio's deluxe version of the Univox Squarewave.
It can do everything from a sputtery Tonebender MKI to the Maestro to a thick velcro squarewave and it has a switch to take out the clipping diodes which brings it into a sweet raunchy 70s fuzzy overdrive like Neil Young type stuff.
here's some samples he recorded, but it can do way more, especially when you crank it:
http://www.basicaudio.net/Squarewave-deluxe.mp3

http://www.basicaudio.net/Squarewave-bass.mp3

highly recommended for all your sputtery needs. :!!!:

There's 3 knobs and a switch, can you tell us what are those knob doing? Thanks!!