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idea!

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:18 am
by the Life Aquatic
so i was just thinking, would it be possible to put effects after the amp before the speaker. i.e. put a noise reducer between the head and cab. i assume though u just cant take a boss ns2 and hook it up to ur head and cab, i assume its not rated to take that much power that a head puts out. but could one build such a pedal to do that? just wondering :idk:

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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:38 am
by Gearmond
i think i tried it before, but i don't remember.

should work in theory, i'd imagine.

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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:24 am
by smile_man
thought same thing before.

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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:43 am
by oinkbanana
effects loop?



otherwise don't do it. you'll most likely break your pedal

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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:45 am
by the Life Aquatic
oh id never try it, unless i was using a crappy pedal i didnt care about. just something i was wondering while hooking up my cab to my head

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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:57 am
by TheRiffer
I am not sure on this..But IMO...I wouldn't do it. Just say the power blasting through the pedal burns something, maybe shorts out. You could conceivably have a dead short and do some serious damage to your amp. I may be way off here, but that's my train of thought.

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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:26 am
by Bassus Sanguinis
TheRiffer wrote:I am not sure on this..But IMO...I wouldn't do it. Just say the power blasting through the pedal burns something, maybe shorts out. You could conceivably have a dead short and do some serious damage to your amp. I may be way off here, but that's my train of thought.


This, according to my educated guesses. Preamps and pedals are supposed to come in before the power amp for reason, I'm been told. And at least tube amps should never be switched on without connecting to cabs, right, and I'd imagine a pedal in between the amp and the cab would totally fuck up the volume load and possibly altering impedances, thus possibly breaking or harming either the pedal or the amp. I guess at best, if everything went down well, it'd just be hurting your cab and ears... possibly with interesting results, but I'd resent promoting this :facepalm:

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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:48 am
by Gone Fission
To make this work, you'd have to give a tube amp an alternate load to drive and attenuate, pad, and impedance match the signal down to pedal level. On the output of the noise suppressor you would have to go through preamp and power amplification all over again, with new noise likely.

Noise is mostly associated with voltage gain as far as I gather. That makes an effects loop a damned good place to attack.

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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:12 am
by dorfmeister
You could slave an amp into another using an attenuator with a line out. You can put the effects after the line out and before you go into the other amp.

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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:34 pm
by the Life Aquatic
haha now its getting too complicated and too much work for it, just wanted another place to stick some pedals

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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:58 pm
by sonidero
Don't do it...

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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:12 pm
by eatyourguitar
go for it. you'll have a broken amp, a broken pedal, and a fire
:joy: :omg: :!!!: Image

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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:16 pm
by smallsnd/bigsnd
eatyourguitar wrote:go for it. you'll have a broken amp, a broken pedal, and a fire
:joy: :omg: :!!!: Image


this.

Re: idea!

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:27 pm
by the Life Aquatic
haha of course im not gonna try it, i kno better, just curious, hey knowledge is power :!!!: the more u kno!

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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:04 am
by metalmariachi
You would need to get two inter stage transformers to impedance match the input and out put of the pedal.
Not worth the effort.

MM