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Just realised something

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:35 am
by Monkeyboard
Back in the day when there was no internet people bought albums (please keep reading this is not a 'don't download music' speech) and you took your collection with you everytime you moved or something like that.

By the time you hit 40 or 50 and you have kids and whatnot and there is so much new music to listen to, you have your albums to remind you of your old music taste.

I own my share of Vinyl records and only about 25 CD's but I'm not lying when I say most of my music is electronic (i.e. Laptop, media player, youtube etc.) by the time I hit 40 I have nothing but my memory to remind me of all the great bands I used to listen to. And I don't have a huge amount of faith in it.

On the other hand. I don't have the money to buy albums at 10-15 euros new...

Am I the only one who finds this a bit of a depressing prospect? :(

Re: Just realised something

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 12:28 pm
by Gearmond
i dunno.

i figure we'll have our music all the same, it'll just not be in physical form, and won't warp if you take bad care of it.

Re: Just realised something

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 12:52 pm
by Mudfuzz
Gearmond wrote:i dunno.

i figure we'll have our music all the same, it'll just not be in physical form, and won't warp if you take bad care of it.


I agree in a way. I'm not one of those nostalgic people that gets all warm and fuzzy over the songs I liked at certain points in my life. And I do like that you can store a ton of music in a small object.

On the other hand I love albums in all forms. I think that packaging and art is all part of a whole just as the song order that the ARTIST chose. Mix-tapes and playlists are cool but it's not the same experience as the ritualistic way you do the vinyl thing :cool:

I'm 32 and up intill now I never never had money to blow on lots of music in hard form so I had to be really choosy as to what I would get... and I still am but I still haven't bought tons of vinyl, but I have spend $$$ on it... :cry: My damn luck for liking collectable bands that put out stuff in small runs :grumpy: so you end up paying $60-70+ sometimes....

Re: Just realised something

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:28 pm
by Monkeyboard
Like I said it wasn't meant as a bash against digital music.

I love downloading music and finding out about obscure artists I would have never heard of if not for the internet.

But unlike albums I'll never take my hard-drive along with me when I move or something like that. Sure music taste evolves and you'll never listen to the same band through your entire life but it'd be nice to at least remember them.

Re: Just realised something

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:50 pm
by Mudfuzz
Monkeyboard wrote:Like I said it wasn't meant as a bash against digital music.

I love downloading music and finding out about obscure artists I would have never heard of if not for the internet.

But unlike albums I'll never take my hard-drive along with me when I move or something like that. Sure music taste evolves and you'll never listen to the same band through your entire life but it'd be nice to at least remember them.

I wasn't.

True.

No some people do, they can never seem to get away from the music they liked when they were a teen.

Re: Just realised something

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 2:38 pm
by Jero
I'm only 22, but I still listen to some of the stuff I liked when I was 14 or so. I actually found it interesting, as I recently started listening to records I hadn't played in forever, I was still able to get into them.

Re: Just realised something

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 3:34 pm
by Monkeyboard
Jero wrote:I'm only 22, but I still listen to some of the stuff I liked when I was 14 or so. I actually found it interesting, as I recently started listening to records I hadn't played in forever, I was still able to get into them.


Some of the bands you might still enjoy but surely not all of it?

I'm still disastrously young but I think some of the music I listened to a few years ago was utter crap.

Re: Just realised something

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 3:41 pm
by Mudfuzz
Monkeyboard wrote:I'm still disastrously young but I think some of the music I listened to a few years ago was utter crap.

That is the way it was for me... When I was a teen I was heavy into thrash... then I got over it and now every time I hear McTallica I cringe sure the first four albums were good but after a while.... Sure there are bands I have and always will love but not because I liked them at a certain point in my life and how it "takes" me back... I don't want to be taken back. I work with a guy that the 80's was "his" time.... need I say more...

And don't worry you will never stop getting older :grumpy: and one day you will look back and go "fuck that went by fast :eek:"

Re: Just realised something

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 5:39 pm
by Monkeyboard
Mudfuzz wrote:
Monkeyboard wrote:I'm still disastrously young but I think some of the music I listened to a few years ago was utter crap.

That is the way it was for me... When I was a teen I was heavy into thrash... then I got over it and now every time I hear McTallica I cringe sure the first four albums were good but after a while.... Sure there are bands I have and always will love but not because I liked them at a certain point in my life and how it "takes" me back... I don't want to be taken back. I work with a guy that the 80's was "his" time.... need I say more...

And don't worry you will never stop getting older :grumpy: and one day you will look back and go "fuck that went by fast :eek:"


Oh yeah I enjoy my youth just fine don't worry. Just people tend to judge you by your age and not how you act. And it might sound a bit arrogant but I think I can safely say I'm a tad bit ahead of my agemates.

Also. I don't want to be taken back by finding old music. But everyday I find out about a new artist. Fast forward 20 years or so and there'll be SO much music worth listening I could forget artist I don't want to forget.

Everyone goes through a phase sure. I wasn't into music, then I went into metal and now I listen to decent music (there is decent metal but not the stuff I was listening to) But I think some of the stuff post-phase will be good forever (Benn Jordan, Johann Johannson etc.) and that pool of music is just growing in size by the day. I'm not saying I will forget it. But the thought there is a chance I might lose some of that good music because there is no physical object to remember me of it I found a little disturbing.

On the other hand that's just me and I could be talking gibberish

Re: Just realised something

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 6:34 pm
by Mudfuzz
I agree and I've felt this way since the first napster wave. For me to buy media in "hard" form I have to love the crap out of it... But I can also remember back when you had to mail order a tape or CD to even hear what the stuff sound like, you'd read about it in a mag and hope it was good, and it always costed a lot [to me]. Sure if you lived a cool city you could find stuff but my teens till I was 17 was spent in northern AZ and at the time there was nothing there. When I moved to the Bay area [again, I was born there] all of a sudden there were cool record stores where you could get odd shit cheap :omg: Then I moved to Seattle and again cool shops were you could find shit cheap :omg: then napster came :omg: amd I was able to find all those bands I had heard of but could never find :omg: Then Lars came :mad:

Re: Just realised something

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:55 pm
by unownunown
i LOVE having physical copies of my music. i agree though, for me to have every song i have in itunes in my bookshelf would just be unfeasible. it is pretty depressing though, in the future, what are you going to tell your grandkids to do, flip through your itunes?

Re: Just realised something

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 1:17 am
by Gearmond
i think its a fundamental contradiction of interests. we love music, and we love having stuff. now technically music isn't really stuff, since its audio. so theres that. but CDs are cool, vinyl is even cooler, and you can't really replicate the sensation of holding a new record, following the lyrics in your room as you play it for the first time.

Re: Just realised something

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 1:45 pm
by nad
I download all the time but I still own like 1,200 CDs. I probably only buy 20 a year now instead of 100+ like I used to, but that's only due to being a lot more poor than I used to be.

Re: music from my youth, it's funny to see the stuff that still holds up over the years. The majority of stuff I listened to "back then" is still quite good. But nu-metal fucking blows. Ick.

Re: Just realised something

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:20 pm
by Ghost Hip
Monkeyboard wrote:
Jero wrote:I'm only 22, but I still listen to some of the stuff I liked when I was 14 or so. I actually found it interesting, as I recently started listening to records I hadn't played in forever, I was still able to get into them.


Some of the bands you might still enjoy but surely not all of it?

I'm still disastrously young but I think some of the music I listened to a few years ago was utter crap.


Once I got to be 14 I had eliminated the 'bad music' in my collection. I can still listen to Sum 41 and Blink 182 from my teen years right after listening to Arcade Fire and Sonic Youth which I discovered much later on.

Re: Just realised something

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:16 pm
by comtrails70
Monkeyboard wrote:Back in the day when there was no internet people bought albums (please keep reading this is not a 'don't download music' speech) and you took your collection with you everytime you moved or something like that.

By the time you hit 40 or 50 and you have kids and whatnot and there is so much new music to listen to, you have your albums to remind you of your old music taste.

I own my share of Vinyl records and only about 25 CD's but I'm not lying when I say most of my music is electronic (i.e. Laptop, media player, youtube etc.) by the time I hit 40 I have nothing but my memory to remind me of all the great bands I used to listen to. And I don't have a huge amount of faith in it.

On the other hand. I don't have the money to buy albums at 10-15 euros new...

Am I the only one who finds this a bit of a depressing prospect? :(

it is a bit depressing.. all my family photos from the past 6 years are digital as well as most recent music.
i'm going back to all analog if my computer ever gets stolen :evil: