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Would you describe the Karaoke Party as "Revolver"y?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:42 pm
by CBA
M'yello.

Just feeling around for overdrive/fuzzes (as opposed to distortion) that have a somewhat Revolver-y sound as in "She Said She Said", "Taxman", and possibly "And Your Bird Can Puke". Is the Karaoke Party like that, or is it more on the overdrive/distortion side? I really like the sound of 60s "fuzz" that is just very light, yet still has an unmistakable fuzz quality.

Yer pal,

C

Re: Would you describe the Karaoke Party as "Revolver"y?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:00 pm
by kosta
Karaoke Party to me is more dirt than fuzz. Could probably do some stuff close to Taxman. She Said might be fun to try with something like a Mid Fi Peace Gun!

Re: Would you describe the Karaoke Party as "Revolver"y?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:18 pm
by Teej212
its a good heavy OD

Re: Would you describe the Karaoke Party as "Revolver"y?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:51 pm
by CBA
Ok. I may skip it, then. I just got a 3-knob Singing Tree in a trade that I'm really excited about, so I thought about getting a KP to do a light 60s fuzz... but I don't need one if it's going to be similar to the Singing Tree.

Thanks!

C

Re: Would you describe the Karaoke Party as "Revolver"y?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:36 pm
by devnulljp
The Beatles used loads of different fuzz boxes -- stomps and built into amps. Last count I saw was 10.
Maestro FZ-1 in 1963ish and a MkI Tone Bender on Rubber Soul.
By 1966, John Lennon had a wedge-shape WEM fuzz pedal I don't know anything about but it looks kinda like a Maestro; Paul McCartney was using a MkII Tone Bender (OC75s maybe?), and George Harrison was most likely using the fuzz built-in the hybrid SS preamp/tube power Vox 7120 amp.
In 1967, they were using Vox 730s and Selmer Zodiak both with built-in fuzz.
In 1968, for the Hey Bulldog/Lady Madonna sessions there's pics with a Vox Conqueror.
On Revolution (1968), John Lennon was running his Casino into the desk (Redd consoles) to overload the preamp and get that fuzz sound.
By 1969, George harrison had a Si Fuzz Face.

All that aside, the Italian Vox 2-trannie V828 Tone Bender sounds pretty close to a lot of those fuzz tones. So does the DAM 1966, which is based on it. Taxman kinda sounds Voxish to me.
Or get a decent MkI Tone Bender for the earlier sounds.

Just my CAD$0.02 worth.

Here's a pic of Sum Yung Guys with a Maestro fuzz tone in 63ish?

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Here's the WEM in 1966
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This is the Tone Bender that looks suspiciously like the Vox (although I've heard it claimed to be a Mk1.5 TB?)
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There was a guy on TGP and the DAM forum a few years ago seemed to know all this stuff -- real Beatles but (OK OK I'm tired: Beatles nut :lol: )I guess. Where I cribbed all that info.

Re: Would you describe the Karaoke Party as "Revolver"y?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:23 pm
by CBA
devnulljp wrote:
There was a guy on TGP and the DAM forum a few years ago seemed to know all this stuff -- real Beatles but I guess. Where I cribbed all that info.


Real Beatles butt? NO WAY!!! :p


Yeah... I'm pretty well-versed in my Beatles lore, but some of this is news to me. Thank you!

A few days ago there was a post about the fuzz on "Hold Tight" by Dave Dee, Bitchy, Titties, & Ron, and I'm still blown away by the D*A*M demo that was posted about halfway down the thread. Good lord... that thing sounds so very very good.

Think I'll just chill for a bit.

Your pal,

C

p.s. Finally read through the whole Mellowtone Electric Apple Saga post... that thing sounds pretty friggin' nice. Maybe that will do me.

Re: Would you describe the Karaoke Party as "Revolver"y?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:00 pm
by tuffteef
the overdrive on vox superbeatles is so sick


that amp in general is awesome

Re: Would you describe the Karaoke Party as "Revolver"y?

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:18 am
by devnulljp
CBA713 wrote:Dave Dee, Bitchy, Titties, & Ron.
The Mr. Men starring Ron Jeremy :lol:
There's a great looking book called Recording the Beatles with a lot of info -- not cheap and not available til August, but I might get it.

I know Gary Hurst is claiming the tone bender was one of his Mk1.5s, but he had a vested interest in selling his RI, so who knows.

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Funny that he calls the 2-trannie Italian Vox TB a terrible copy: Robby Kruger used one and so did Ron Asheton. It's a really cool and interesting fuzz.

And this is what you need to get the Revolver fuzz tone ..
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Re: Would you describe the Karaoke Party as "Revolver"y?

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:07 pm
by metalmariachi
tuffteef wrote:the overdrive on vox superbeatles is so sick


that amp in general is awesome

My experience with the Super Beatles is when they worked they sounded great.
No 2 parts of them seemed to be working at the same time and I remember a lot of smoke.

But if I found 1 I’d buy it. LOL

MM

Re: Would you describe the Karaoke Party as "Revolver"y?

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:57 pm
by tuffteef
metalmariachi wrote:
tuffteef wrote:the overdrive on vox superbeatles is so sick


that amp in general is awesome

My experience with the Super Beatles is when they worked they sounded great.
No 2 parts of them seemed to be working at the same time and I remember a lot of smoke.

But if I found 1 I’d buy it. LOL

MM


LOL ill keep this in mind

and yet i still want one