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Tape saturation/blown speaker pedal?

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:33 pm
by jonah
Okay, sorta odd question here.

I used to use a free amp I got with a rips plus some extra cuts in the speaker and the bass turned up all the way to get the sound I want. I would mic this and record onto a heavily over saturated tape. The power supply died on the amp and I don't want to buy an amp just to trash it. There are a lot of other issues too, it's loud as hell, it's a ton of things to plug in and mic placement is a pain in the ass as the bass pushes a lot of air.

Anyway, I'm wondering if there are any pedals(or software or rack gear) I can use to get this sound. I'd like to record directly into a computer. It's not really a distortion or a fuzz type sound it a heavily saturated farty speaker breakup type noise. I love the way the sounds bleed into each other and blurs together!! The first youtube video has close to the sound quality I'm shooting for the others the buzzing bass sounds I'm looking to get.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRDt-xbj8vY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj4tGtLTios
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMWJ2Wj3cBw

Thanks.

Re: Tape saturation/blown speaker pedal?

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:42 pm
by theavondon
Iron Butterfly brings the Mosrite Fuzzrite to mind. Otherwise, maybe try the DE TP? :p

Re: Tape saturation/blown speaker pedal?

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:00 pm
by Rygot
+1
Torn's Peaker does what it sounds like it should do.

Re: Tape saturation/blown speaker pedal?

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:11 pm
by Ghost Hip
Rygot wrote:+1
Torn's Peaker does what it sounds like it should do.


Yeah the TP definitely can do that Iron Butterfly sound.

Re: Tape saturation/blown speaker pedal?

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:53 pm
by futuresailors
Get a TP

Get wasted.

Crush the beer cans.

Put them between the speaker an the grill.

Fucking kill things.

Re: Tape saturation/blown speaker pedal?

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:21 pm
by theavondon
futuresailors wrote:Get a TP

Get wasted.

Crush the beer cans.

Put them between the speaker an the grill.

Fucking kill things.

?????????

PROFIT


fix'd.

Re: Tape saturation/blown speaker pedal?

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:33 pm
by futuresailors
Ahh thank you.

I forgot the most important step.

Re: Tape saturation/blown speaker pedal?

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:38 pm
by jonah
That's good idea to put things in the grill! I just tried it with a drum track, sounds good - my roommates hate me though.

Torn's peaker might work if I put an EQ after it to roll off the high end there is something in the high's I don't like.

I am running my whole mix through the effects. I actually record pretty clean. I found a better example of the sound I am going for with the band Les Rallizes Denudes. I love distortion like this it is so damn alive sounding. Everything in the mix is fighting each other.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRWc7xCfkBU

As far as the tape saturation sounds go I did some more looking and found some rack gear like the Evol Fucifier and the Thermionic Culture Vulture.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s028L_Gi3_s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjzMEH6-SFs

They sound great but are STUPID money especially compared to tape. I guess I'll stick with a tape deck/reel to reel for now. I sorta want to sell my car though hahaha. Why is distortion so awesome?
Cry.

Re: Tape saturation/blown speaker pedal?

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:31 pm
by smile_man
I hope you've heard this song, this is my holy grail of tone.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDZC1Ik3We0[/youtube]

Re: Tape saturation/blown speaker pedal?

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:25 am
by jonah
Thanks for posting that smile man it's nice stuff! I had avoided The Microphones as I thought they were an easy listening indie band that made watered down pap. I was wrong, haha. I'm listening to Samurai Sword off The Glow Part 2 right now and it's really great.

Good songs recorded on tape rule, OK!

I have not found any fake tape software I like so far. I like the unexpected shit happens when I record to tape and nothing I found so far can do that.

Re: Tape saturation/blown speaker pedal?

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:57 am
by pillof
I actually got a fuzz sound quite close to this by accident.
I ran guitar-> wah ->silicon fuzzface->overdriven lunchbox amp.

I'd use this sound more often if I have a rhythm guitar in my band.

As much as I love Glow Pt. 2, his tone in Black Wooden is one of the best guitar distortion I've heard.

and I think he use boss MD-2 or something like that...

smile_man wrote:I hope you've heard this song, this is my holy grail of tone.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDZC1Ik3We0[/youtube]

Re: Tape saturation/blown speaker pedal?

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:12 pm
by StudioShutIn
One pedal that I haven't actually tried, but have heard and seems like it does the sound you want is the Vintage Radio Simulator by Torch Effects.
It has a really weird tone-filter that makes the guitar sound like it's coming from a cheap transistor radio, but then it has a Burst switch, which engages a raspy, farty overdrive that (I think) will get what you're looking for. To get the warm tape-saturation, you'd probably have to add another pedal, like a parametric EQ or something.
Hope this helps.

Re: Tape saturation/blown speaker pedal?

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:56 pm
by aussy
Have you tried cranking the mic/line input to overload the pre?

Re: Tape saturation/blown speaker pedal?

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:36 pm
by Chumley
+1 for the Culture Vulture... <3

Anyhow, there's some pretty broken tones involving cascading a cranked EHX LPB-2ube, with an EQ rolling off the highs and lows in the middle, into a DE US or AE. And, to complete the trinity of Tape Saturation, Broken Speakers, and Lo-Fi A/D conversion, can I reccomend the WSoU? Leave it at 6 or so bits and put the resolution at 3 o clock. Great tones.

Re: Tape saturation/blown speaker pedal?

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 12:48 pm
by Bellyheart
WSoU?