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Re: Count To Five
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 12:48 pm
by DRodriguez
voerking wrote:phantasmagorovich wrote:With the improved quantization-on-a-switch I'm back to wanting this as a replacement for the GB24.
Scott, have you tamed the shrillness of the Ct5? (I'm comparing to the GB24 where the low fidelity just ate up the higher range.)
did you think the first version of the CT5 was shrill sounding? i don't hear that at all (with my set up).
I don't find mine shrill per se, but I do find the high end a little too cutting in the mix in mode 1. But I frequently use parallel chains, so I'll just put the CT5 before something with a tone knob or low pass
Re: Count To Five
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:30 pm
by Eric!
I'm thinking this into some slowly-closing (downward sweep) LPF would just be awesome
Re: Count To Five
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:36 pm
by decomposing
looking forward to testing it out with my bass micro synth and 8 step filter with some feedback loops.
joy.
Re: Count To Five
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:04 pm
by multi_s
DRodriguez wrote:voerking wrote:phantasmagorovich wrote:With the improved quantization-on-a-switch I'm back to wanting this as a replacement for the GB24.
Scott, have you tamed the shrillness of the Ct5? (I'm comparing to the GB24 where the low fidelity just ate up the higher range.)
did you think the first version of the CT5 was shrill sounding? i don't hear that at all (with my set up).
I don't find mine shrill per se, but I do find the high end a little too cutting in the mix in mode 1. But I frequently use parallel chains, so I'll just put the CT5 before something with a tone knob or low pass
If you have the feedback cranked and shoot notes upwards, its going to be a bunch of nice high pitched sounds because thats what you are telling it to do. you can make less high pitches by reducing the feedback and therefore lowering the number of repititions/transpositions. iirc on the current firmware there is a digital filter in the feedback loop that starts to cut around 5 or 6 khz but id have to double check the cut off. the idea was to allow at least 1 or 2 audible transpositions of the highest fundamental on the fretboard (~2k). You can test it to see, play a low note and transpose it up, it will sound like a guitar for several repeats since most of the harmonics remain below the filer cut off. but play way up the neck on high e string and it sounds synthetic almost right away in the repeats since all the harmonics get stripped quickly, then the note will vanish pre maturely.
whether or not you will think the result is shrill is just too subjective for me to comment on.
with the gb24 the 8 bit audio quality causes some other artifacts that aren't really an issue on any of the ct5 revs.
s
Re: Count To Five
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:31 pm
by Eric!
I'm (not) sorry if this sounds dumb but I cannot get a clear answer anywhere....
Does the CT5 shift downward as well? every demo i watch is nothing but BIRDS.
Re: Count To Five
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:37 pm
by Inconuucl
Eric! wrote:I'm (not) sorry if this sounds dumb but I cannot get a clear answer anywhere....
Does the CT5 shift downward as well? every demo i watch is nothing but BIRDS.
Yup! It makes cool baroque bassist noises.
Or scary grumbles.
Re: Count To Five
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:21 am
by DRodriguez
multi_s wrote:If you have the feedback cranked and shoot notes upwards, its going to be a bunch of nice high pitched sounds because thats what you are telling it to do. you can make less high pitches by reducing the feedback and therefore lowering the number of repititions/transpositions. iirc on the current firmware there is a digital filter in the feedback loop that starts to cut around 5 or 6 khz but id have to double check the cut off. the idea was to allow at least 1 or 2 audible transpositions of the highest fundamental on the fretboard (~2k). You can test it to see, play a low note and transpose it up, it will sound like a guitar for several repeats since most of the harmonics remain below the filer cut off. but play way up the neck on high e string and it sounds synthetic almost right away in the repeats since all the harmonics get stripped quickly, then the note will vanish pre maturely.
whether or not you will think the result is shrill is just too subjective for me to comment on.
with the gb24 the 8 bit audio quality causes some other artifacts that aren't really an issue on any of the ct5 revs.
s
Absolutely. the Ct5 is doing exactly as it should. I just love leaving the feedback high and then taming it a bit to blend it a little better in my weirdness. It's very easy to tuck it back with the mix knob, but I like to make it go crazy and artificial, and then darken it a bit. The Ct5 is my go to pedal when I need to inject some creativity or weirdness into my brain because of how crazy I can get with it.
I still haven't gotten around to updating it though. just installed windows on an old mac, I really should give it a go. Seems like you've built in what I've been doing through other means.
Re: Count To Five
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:56 am
by deeohgee
Eric! wrote:I'm (not) sorry if this sounds dumb but I cannot get a clear answer anywhere....
Does the CT5 shift downward as well? every demo i watch is nothing but BIRDS.
The first minute is all the way down!
https://youtu.be/DNbKOAaCE6U
Re: Count To Five
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 3:26 am
by Seance
deeohgee wrote:Eric! wrote:I'm (not) sorry if this sounds dumb but I cannot get a clear answer anywhere....
Does the CT5 shift downward as well? every demo i watch is nothing but BIRDS.
The first minute is all the way down!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNbKOAaCE6U[/youtube]
Sounds good! Of course I like some of the high register tinkle notes as well.
Like a little white mouse living trampoline-style atop the upper register strings
of a grand piano in an abandoned ghost truffle factory.
Re: Count To Five
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:29 am
by phantasmagorovich
Sorry, no offense meant. Maybe shrill isn't the exact word I was looking for. But when I had the Ct5 I felt it was too hi-fi to be pleasant to my ear, something the GB24 happily avoids, the being hi-fi.
When I had one, it must have been from the first or second batch you said you were thinking about a filtering option, Scott. Is this the filter you are talking about now, or was that one always in place?
Maybe I should also say that my rig is set to cut, so maybe it over-accentuates the higher registers that the Ct5 is able to reach.
Re: Count To Five
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:42 am
by deeohgee
Seance wrote:deeohgee wrote:Eric! wrote:I'm (not) sorry if this sounds dumb but I cannot get a clear answer anywhere....
Does the CT5 shift downward as well? every demo i watch is nothing but BIRDS.
The first minute is all the way down!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNbKOAaCE6U[/youtube]
Sounds good! Of course I like some of the high register tinkle notes as well.
Like a little white mouse living trampoline-style atop the upper register strings
of a grand piano in an abandoned ghost truffle factory.
Yep, that's the vibe I was going for, except I think the mouse was grey...
Re: Count To Five
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:32 am
by D Rock
Getting a little closer every day. I cannot wait to try this new version. And I must say, I love the CT5 unquantized, it allows for some really cool tape warping that way.
Re: Count To Five
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:48 am
by untilshewokeme
Re: Count To Five
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:57 am
by Somnambulance
untilshewokeme wrote:
Re: Count To Five
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 6:05 pm
by Seance
untilshewokeme wrote: