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TIL deafheaven invented clean guitars in black metal.


And I love Spacemen 3 but I would send them straight into the sun if it meant I didn't have to listen to a casecandy alt tell me about Tame Impala or Animal Collective.

D.o.S. wrote:TIL deafheaven invented clean guitars in black metal.


And I love Spacemen 3 but I would send them straight into the sun if it meant I didn't have to listen to a casecandy alt tell me about Tame Impala or Animal Collective.

I never said Deafheaven created clean guitars in black metal. I said its one of the best things to happen to black metal.

D.o.S. wrote:TIL deafheaven invented clean guitars in black metal.


And I love Spacemen 3 but I would send them straight into the sun if it meant I didn't have to listen to a casecandy alt tell me about Tame Impala or Animal Collective.

Also that second sentence is moronic.

Anyone with a genuine love of music can only hear 'Person Pitch' by Panda Bear or 'Lonerism' by Tame Impala and can discern their musical value, if you will.

And to take such a flippant stance on the subject of Spacemen 3, to the point of almost wishing a world where they didn't exist, is like almost wishing a world where The Velvet underground didn't exist. Do you understand how much artistic stock/value Spacemen 3 have? They're the fucking Da VInci of music.

D.o.S. wrote:TIL deafheaven invented clean guitars in black metal.

Album considered the prototype for black metal by band considered to have invented black metal. First note of first track is clean guitar.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC6DvbEVHcI[/youtube]

Also man the only thing deafhaven have done that is in any way unique or new is look like walking pacsun advertisements. None of their musical approaches or concepts are novel or revolutionary in any way as they are all borrowed from scores of bands that were doing it before them throughout the 2000s.

The thing that gets them so much hate is that their fans are ignorant of black metal and its storied history of invention and amalgamation,and time after time feel the need to insist that every band sounds exactly like darkthrone.

Im willing to bet money that if that flowery douche started rapping on their next album, pitchfork would explode with praises even though garm did that almost 20 years ago.

Woolworm wrote: And to take such a flippant stance on the subject of Spacemen 3, to the point of almost wishing a world where they didn't exist, is like almost wishing a world where The Velvet underground didn't exist. Do you understand how much artistic stock/value Spacemen 3 have? They're the fucking Da VInci of music.

Do you have any idea what its like to listen to case talk about "WHAT HAIM MEANS TO ME: A STORY ABOUT BACKPACKING THROUGH RURAL SASKATCHEWAN AND MY NEW AGE NORDIC ZIONIST AWAKENING" ?

Woolworm wrote:

D.o.S. wrote:TIL deafheaven invented clean guitars in black metal.


And I love Spacemen 3 but I would send them straight into the sun if it meant I didn't have to listen to a casecandy alt tell me about Tame Impala or Animal Collective.

Also that second sentence is moronic.

Anyone with a genuine love of music can only hear 'Person Pitch' by Panda Bear or 'Lonerism' by Tame Impala and can discern their musical value, if you will.

And to take such a flippant stance on the subject of Spacemen 3, to the point of almost wishing a world where they didn't exist, is like almost wishing a world where The Velvet underground didn't exist. Do you understand how much artistic stock/value Spacemen 3 have? They're the fucking Da VInci of music.

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I would send them straight into the sun if it meant I didn't have to listen to a casecandy alt tell me about Tame Impala or Animal Collective.

SPACERITUAL wrote:Also man the only thing deafhaven have done that is in any way unique or new is look like walking pacsun advertisements. None of their musical approaches or concepts are novel or revolutionary in any way as they are all borrowed from scores of bands that were doing it before them throughout the 2000s.

The thing that gets them so much hate is that their fans are ignorant of black metal and its storied history of invention and amalgamation,and time after time feel the need to insist that every band sounds exactly like darkthrone.

Im willing to bet money that if that flowery douche started rapping on their next album, pitchfork would explode with praises even though garm did that almost 20 years ago.

Do you have any idea what its like to listen to case talk about "WHAT HAIM MEANS TO ME: A STORY ABOUT BACKPACKING THROUGH RURAL SASKATCHEWAN AND MY NEW AGE NORDIC ZIONIST AWAKENING" ?

I get it, but I have zero interest in any of that bullshit. The only question I ever need to ask is 'what's on the record?' That's the only noise you need pay attention to, the noise outside of that is ignorable. All of life in general is a bunch of people trying to look a certain way or give off something so they can get ahead/look cool/get social status etc etc. The Beatles and the Rolling Stone were the original 'posers'. The Clash were posers. Ofcourse music will come into that bollocks. But music is also transcendental. Which is why no one band's fanbase can bother me. But I'm I gonna turn around and act like Revolver and London Calling aren't two of the greatest albums of all time? No its stupid. I heard Deafheaven, and I knew instantly this is good. Who cares if most of their fanbase are posers. You cannot honestly tell me Sunbather or New Bermuda are bad albums. Anyone who says that are posing themselves ironically.

You came in swinging, I like that.

And the whole 'well Agalloch don't get the recognition, Ulver don't get the recognition,' well they do. You just think they don't NOW. People who are against Deafheaven are like the people who were against 'white people' doing Chuck Berry or 'black people's music'. The black people got their recognition. You don't need to worry, these bands will get their recognition, if anything more because Deafheaven got so many people into the genre.

Deafheaven are a paradigm shift in black metal and will be seen as such. Who fucking cares now The Beatles were only riding the hippy tail now? NO ONE. Like no one will care about this irrelevant bollocks. All that history will remember is Deafheaven made some of the most amazing albums in the genre. History is against you. End of. They won. And they should win.

The Velvet Undeground didn't get their recognition initially, but once people understood wait, The Stooges, Bowie, and pretty much all of alternative music started from them, they retrospectively become much more important than the shit bands like Jefferson Airplane. Because of Deafheaven, a bunch of bands are gonna retrospectively be given huge ass credit that if Deafheaven weren't around they wouldn't get.

Deafhaven have shifted which paradigm exactly?

I'm really stoked to start taking a dump on all these terrible arguments but I'm stuck in the Popeyes drive thru.

Woolworm wrote: People who are against Deafheaven are like the people who were against 'white people' doing Chuck Berry or 'black people's music'. The black people got their recognition. You don't need to worry, these bands will get their recognition, if anything more because Deafheaven got so many people into the genre.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Totally dude because deafhaven are getting shot with fire hoses and beaten by riot cops and chewed up by dogs and hung and shit.

Woodworm wrote:Im wrong and I'm in a corner but I'm just going to ignore or cherrypick spaces arguments and push through with naive blanket statements about certain bands being TOTALLY AWESOME and remind everyone that I listen to and can namedrop all the right rock bands that pitchfork told me i need to know about to be a cool guy with good taste.

....alright junior. I know Almost Famous made it seem like writing music reviews for your high school newsletter is the sure shot way to hang with philip seymour hoffman and have a threeway with zooey deschanel and kate hudson but let me just save you the trouble and tell you how to actually get laid in high school:

Option A: Play sports and be alright at them. This takes a lot of effort and a modicum of natural talent. Personally I advise against it but hey whatever works for you.

Option B: Be really popular. This usually requires doing option A anyway and if not being rich or something seems to work. I also advise against it it looks really exhausting.

Option C: Be cool. This is the one you're actually already trying for but what you're really doing is being a geek. Writing for the paper is lame as shit and no-one is going to fuck you. All you need to do for this one is sleep in class a lot, go to shows, and always have drugs. Its actually really easy and cheaper than you'd think because your uniform should always consist of leather shoes, levis 501s, black or white pocket t-shirts, and some kind of black jacket for when it gets cold, if it gets cold where you live. Peacoat's and doc martens used to be a sure thing but since boondocks saints came out its really been ruined. Maybe get an eisenhower and some red wings. Also i hate to break it to you but you're going to have to take up smoking. Not only take it up but get in trouble at school for it. Also it helps if you replace your cologne with evan williams. Splash a little in/on your face in the morning and you'll be cool by lunch.

So there you go. Just pick one of those and you will get laid sure thing.

Can I three way with Zooey?
You can keep Kate Hudson.
I'd sooner throw Goldie (circa '85) in the mix.

Although that may mean Kurt Russell's sloppy seconds, but I mean you can do worse in those stakes, right?