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I'm not counting the multis and other stuff I could chain in that have delays in them, after all.

That would be gauche!

D.o.S. wrote:So in the interest of thread context, PV: If you don't jive with the misty cave I'll buy it back from you?

Having only watched videos of the misty cave, I am hoping to love it, but prepared for a worst case scenario. I really want it to fill the hole caused by "I want modulation and reverb." It might be something totally different. It will take me some time to test it on everything, before I decide, but if icide against keeping it, it is yours.

neonblack wrote:I want to try a Gomorrah but I wonder if it would be redundant with a second voice.

I have toyed with a 4046 circuit but never owned one made by someone else. That said, the Gomorrah feels like an oscillating/arpeggiating blue box to me. Different than an octave/synth/fuzz in some crucial ways. I would use both in different spots/capacities.

I'm pretty sure you'll love it, just wanted to get my dibs in if you didn't.

rfurtkamp wrote:All the muffs that died
Sputtered and choked and fried
At least made a satisfying thunk
When vintage boxes into trashcans dumped
Because it was before the days of the 'Bay.

Even the eighth-inch DOD
When it came to frippery
Failed less than the Muff,
And Boss was always up to snuff!

DOD we might agree
Less sufficating than
This boss posting spree

people posting in thread wrote: delays

I have two and a old space echo.. plug-ins make up most of my delays if I ever play Ice Bear stuff out I will have to get a gooder delay and a few reverbs... I really don't want to look right now, I don't want to spend hundreds on reverb devices to do what I am doing with a labtop right now...

Thankfully my verb needs are simple, and I like old crunchy digital units and am not afraid to program them.

There's nothing like kernel panic and overload on some of the old boxes. :0

I had so many cool delays programmed into my TimeLine when I had it, but only really used 3 settings live, and that's when I actually got to the right preset on time. I have a DMM now, no regrets.

I use overdrive, octaves, delay, and reverb. Dl4 when I'm feeling ambitious. I'm actually surprised that I was able to use a harmonizing delay from the PitchFactor in one of my bands songs. It sounds fucking awesome.

TL;DR: I rock at effects bro, just not normal modulation.

Ring mod and some kind of dirt is all I really need and all I've ever used live. Mostly boss mt-2 and ehx frequency analyzer. Probably more SPK and foxx tone machine these days. Boosts and filters are somethings I tend to use a lot too. And vintage fuzzes (pep! fuzzrite. Sinphoton etc).

I've always loved flangers and the idea of delays...but I think I will always just be ring mod+dirt.

Octave down is something I love too but I kinda get dumb when using too many effects at once. Because I am a set and forget always on effect kinda guy in general.

I've been trying to make complicated big boards lately and hate it. Keepin' it simple is where it's at.

What's a good, reasonably priced, readily available ring mod?

I've played a Randys Revenge and absolutely loved it but I doubt I'll be able to afford one in the near future. But I think I could use ring mod in my music and I want to mess around with one.

The venerable Frequency Analyzer is dirt cheap used.

I got my heavy saturn for like 50 dollars or something and it is OK. Ring thing seems good and they can be found for 120-150 easily. Frequency analyzer is great and cheap (I only have the 40v big box from about 12 years ago and the real old ac one).

Carlin is pretty cheap but you need an external carrier...

What do you want to do with it neon? A lot of them don't do the slow trem thing like the moog or Randy's revenge (think of it like just the high frequency setting for the ehx, saturn, etc).

I guess it just depends on what you want too.

Copilot makes a bunch of different ones.

If you wait it out, you can find moog mf102s for 160ish before shipping...but that non bypassable gain can screw with other things

I did really like the trem settings on Randy but I think it would mostly be to add weird overtones to riffs. I'd probably always have some dry signal blended in and run it with dirt.

The sinewave ring mod on Randy is just so much nicer sounding than most other ring mods I've heard. I almost want to just save up/flip some stuff to get it.

That's probably your best bet. Stick with what you like...messing around with a lot of the other ones can juat be a waste some times.

The moog is a little harsher and can modulate the carrier via internal lfo (never use it)...but the Randy has a nicer sound and a bit of compression or a more even sound or something...and the choice of two different co waveshapes...I like it a lot.

The old sick pitch kick is my favorite though. No blend is the correct amount

How about effects I like that are really really difficult to use in a musical setting, so I rarely use them, but they can make all the difference in the world?

- Fuzzfactory: so many other easy to use fuzzers available, but I love what the fuzzfactory does to my thinking about fuzz in the mix. Challenging as it can scream all on it's own, but sometimes you need a little ripper.
- Misty Cave: technically a fucking horrible pedal in so many ways. So hard to get it to sit in a mix and not nuke your guitar sound. At the same time, I had a fantastic moment with a bassist recently where we were at high volume, and it just hit that resonant space so nicely and sat with the bass that it was like I was playing an entirely different instrument.
- Rainbow Machine. What the actual fuck here. I've owned it two years and only now really "get" the interplay between the two delays. Again, the kind of thing that at the right moments, can take a fun moment with the band and make it memorable and distinct. Followed up with two more delays, it's gets real nice and interesting.
- Picking up on the ring mod comments above, I like my mooger, and how it can go from unusable ring mod to lovely trem. From totally unstable to really nice texture via expression pedal. I've just been loving it more as a tremolo lately than as a ring mod.

To me all of the pedals I listed are more about being difficult pony's to ride. Not the pedal's problem, as much as the musician's....

I love all of the effects. All of them. But I had a financial crisis, and sold off most of the goodies. Now, rebuilding a really simple board for live use, practicality and simplicity.

So, before, it was Moogerfoogers, H9, bit crusher, Boomerang...lots of stuff that has modes, tons of knobs, is hard to use live, and gets unpredictable results based on how accurate my size-15 boots are when stomping these tiny fucking switches.

Now: Fat Fuzz Factory, CT5, Wah, Bitquest, DD-7. Blam, done.

LG, if you don't 'tune' the carrier frequency with your ring mods, do you have a sweet spot you set it for, then just leave it? My favorite was always trying to find some kind of enharmonic 'tonic' so that at least the note of the key I'm playing (or abusing) can be pretty. Are you going for straight-up clang?