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hey, for all u ableton users. heres 2 max 4 live devices i made for myself over the last 2 days while smoking some weed and lots of cigarettes.

JUMANJI is a glitcher device of many different flavors (greenwood stutter madness, delay icee freeze, boss hold mode, tape stop) w/ some extra bells and whistles.
pitch shifting random sample buffers, digital explosions. LOFIIIIIIIIIII

NOISE is a pink & white noise generator w/ LFO filter sweep, Master Pitch Shifter, SRR and BITR, and drive. make that tasty noise. combine it w/ your existing audio. run w/ it thru the JUMANJI jungle. all is right in the universe.

i tried to tame the controls while giving the user some extra room to blow it out, but please be careful as shit can get loud in a hurry sometimes.
everything that can be, can be tempo synced to live's bpm.

theres no user guide (atm) so experiment away!
there is some cool functionality underneath that may not be obvious at first. otherwise its pretty easy to mess w/

a couple notes,
sometimes when u load jumanji, freeze (icee) is maybe engaged right away (even tho the button is off) so u may only hear glitchy sounds or no sound. just hit the ICEE button on and off and all should be right.

and also if the boss style HOLD mode isn't working properly just hit the lil R button to reset the whole thing. sometimes the counter is off. in fact if u ever get stuck, hitting R is a good choice.


hope y'all enjoy!

Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D. wrote:hey, for all u ableton users. heres 2 max 4 live devices i made for myself over the last 2 days while smoking some weed and lots of cigarettes.

JUMANJI is a glitcher device of many different flavors (greenwood stutter madness, delay icee freeze, boss hold mode, tape stop) w/ some extra bells and whistles.
pitch shifting random sample buffers, digital explosions. LOFIIIIIIIIIII

NOISE is a pink & white noise generator w/ LFO filter sweep, Master Pitch Shifter, SRR and BITR, and drive. make that tasty noise. combine it w/ your existing audio. run w/ it thru the JUMANJI jungle. all is right in the universe.

i tried to tame the controls while giving the user some extra room to blow it out, but please be careful as shit can get loud in a hurry sometimes.
everything that can be, can be tempo synced to live's bpm.

theres no user guide (atm) so experiment away!
there is some cool functionality underneath that may not be obvious at first. otherwise its pretty easy to mess w/

a couple notes,
sometimes when u load jumanji, freeze (icee) is maybe engaged right away (even tho the button is off) so u may only hear glitchy sounds or no sound. just hit the ICEE button on and off and all should be right.

and also if the boss style HOLD mode isn't working properly just hit the lil R button to reset the whole thing. sometimes the counter is off. in fact if u ever get stuck, hitting R is a good choice.


hope y'all enjoy!

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JUMANJI M4L.zip

Fuck you're a god, thank you

[J.K.] wrote: I don't know if I've missed the boat on this, but if you're still willing to elaborate a bit on how to get started with PPOOLL, I'd really appreciate it. I have it running in the Max 6 runtime, and I can seem to get noises to come out of it, but I've been fumbling around in the dark with it on and off for the past month. Aside from loading a sample or making monotone noises, I'm kinda hopeless. I can tell it yields a lot of irreplaceable value, but I can't really figure it out, and it's killing me that it's so unapproachable to me.
I've dusted over the "quick and dirty guide" for its earlier LLOOPP incarnation, and I've tried to decode the native info files, but it's all Greek to me.
Any insights you can offer would be greatly appreciated for me.

Cheers!

Once I get a computer that will run everything again, that's definitely on the list. Unsure of when that'll be though. ppooll can be such a great environment for fucking around, but they never teach you how to use it, it's a real shame.

Once I get a computer that will run everything again, that's definitely on the list. Unsure of when that'll be though. ppooll can be such a great environment for fucking around, but they never teach you how to use it, it's a real shame.

Yeah, there's something about the interface that just beguiles me, and I assumed that as I familiarized myself with Max more, I'd catch up to it. I'm surprised it's been around for so long, and is still getting updated releases, but there hasn't become better documentation yet. The Wiki is an absolute joke (and describing an act as a "synthesizer based on the idea of non-trivial machines" isn't particularly useful to me). If the Wiki at least established a better foundation for how the setup works and created a better glossary of terminology, I think the individual acts would be more navigable. What pains me the most is that I'm a tech writer, and I want to help (and feel a bit ashamed for not understanding it better), but there's not much of a community around it. I get the impression that the Max for Cats has taken some cues from PPOOLL/LLOOPP, but they've managed to make a more coherent, documented, and complete product right off the bat (then again, it ain't free).
Maybe if I can learn PPOOLL adequately enough, I can contribute to the documentation? I'm not sure how feasible that would be, though.

I think what beguiles me most is the esoteric way the routing works and the way the acts interconnect (host/bufferhost, which acts use audio input, which use samples, which modulate other acts, how you even configure that). Then there's the weird square grids on everything, which I can't keep track of. Not to mention my general inability to understand how the saving and setting up of everything is really done.
I can't imagine comfortably automating an entire live session with it.
Fundamentally, I think PPOOLL might be easier than I realize, but I find myself getting stuck in corners. Messing with parameters and trying to get things to interact, I often end up with some stuttering dissonance where I have to close a bunch of windows down to undo whatever mistakes I had made.

Like I said, I've seen people demo it and tool around with sine waves, but I'm aiming for a more practical and flexible surface for on-the-spot experimentation (ideally, something with a bit more depth and character than AudioMulch, which I understand is a versatile and extremely usable software, but it feels very restrained to me; my brain parses out very little mystery in the way it effects sound). A lot of my shortcomings probably lie in having spent most of my music playing looking at everything in the same manner that I think of playing guitar in a live setting, and my expectations for computer interactivity may be a little misguided. Still, while I enjoyed making ambient drone music when I got started in laptop compositions, I still have a perverse pop sensibility that drives me to want to make something more functional with this kind of software. I always thought Christian Fennesz struck the closest balance to extreme experimentation and without falling too deeply into drone/ambient structure pitfalls, hence me spending so much time with Max in general. Hopefully PPOOLL clicks with me and opens a few more doors.

Oh fuck, totally downloading those patches the minute I get home... thanx Dr. Sticks!

Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D. wrote:hey, for all u ableton users. heres 2 max 4 live devices i made for myself over the last 2 days while smoking some weed and lots of cigarettes.

JUMANJI is a glitcher device of many different flavors (greenwood stutter madness, delay icee freeze, boss hold mode, tape stop) w/ some extra bells and whistles.
pitch shifting random sample buffers, digital explosions. LOFIIIIIIIIIII

NOISE is a pink & white noise generator w/ LFO filter sweep, Master Pitch Shifter, SRR and BITR, and drive. make that tasty noise. combine it w/ your existing audio. run w/ it thru the JUMANJI jungle. all is right in the universe.

i tried to tame the controls while giving the user some extra room to blow it out, but please be careful as shit can get loud in a hurry sometimes.
everything that can be, can be tempo synced to live's bpm.

theres no user guide (atm) so experiment away!
there is some cool functionality underneath that may not be obvious at first. otherwise its pretty easy to mess w/

a couple notes,
sometimes when u load jumanji, freeze (icee) is maybe engaged right away (even tho the button is off) so u may only hear glitchy sounds or no sound. just hit the ICEE button on and off and all should be right.

and also if the boss style HOLD mode isn't working properly just hit the lil R button to reset the whole thing. sometimes the counter is off. in fact if u ever get stuck, hitting R is a good choice.


hope y'all enjoy!

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JUMANJI M4L.zip

Dude, this is so awesome. Thanks so much!

anytime dudes! max is fun.

also happy to answer any questions or listen to some feedback on them if anyone feels inclined.

So I'm dumb as hell, but very interested in working out how to utilize Ableton Live in uh, a live situation.
Is there a way to have say Guitar > Effects > Ableton Manipulation (ie: Amp simulation, running through crazy MAX patches) > Some form of manipulating the loops generated in Ableton with an interface of some kind > PA ?
What's the best way to go about this?

Yes, there is. You'll need an audio interface that goes from 1/4th to your computer and then something like this DI box that goes out from your computer to the PA:
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ ... Hwod-0ALFw

Thee are a ton of Ableton controllers out there, but I've never used any of them so I can't give you feedback on that front.

Regarding manipulation with MAX -- if you mean Max for Live then you are all set as it all lives within the Ableton environment. If you mean standalone max then you will need to work a way to route audio between. If you're on a mac you can use a program called Soundflower, and if you're on PC then there's a program called Jack. Jack was confusing as hell to me, so instead I got creative with my interface. This explanation will proably be confusing as well!



I created an audio track in Ableton with an "external audio effect" rack on it. Then I plug patch cables on the interface from out 3 to in 4, and from out 4 to in 3, setting that up as the audio send and receive in the effects rack. Then I set the corresponding ins and outs in the MAX audio settings to grab, process, and send back to Ableton. Alternately, you can also put the effect on one of Ableton's send channels and then route your desired amount of each signal out into MAX. Works great!

There are so many controllers out there, it really depends on what you're trying to do a to which will work best for your setup. Ableton makes it so easy with the midi map mode that you can make almost anything work, but certain things will oviously be more conducive to certain tasks of workflows. For mixer-like tasks I use a Korg NanoKontrol and it's small, cheap, and simple. For synths and effects manipulation I use a Midi Twister Fighter. Less cheap, but really well built and the different programming options make it super flexible.

I created an audio track in Ableton with an "external audio effect" rack on it. Then I plug patch cables on the interface from out 3 to in 4, and from out 4 to in 3, setting that up as the audio send and receive in the effects rack. Then I set the corresponding ins and outs in the MAX audio settings to grab, process, and send back to Ableton. Alternately, you can also put the effect on one of Ableton's send channels and then route your desired amount of each signal out into MAX. Works great!

Oh you crafty bitch.

D.o.S. wrote:Oh you crafty bitch.

Also, if anyone is going to be running into a guitar ramp, I suggest getting a Re-amp box to change the impedance from the audio interface output back to a normal guitar impedance. I found going straight from the AI into my amp changed the Tone significantly.

I also used the audio effects rack but found that changed my tone. I wanted to run my guitar into Live, use redux and some other stuff into my pedalboard.

I think I may be my own audience at this point, but my fascination with PPOOLL has found me offering to help maintain and update their wiki (which I have already begun doing, fixing broken links and adding a few images).
This is all quite ironic, naturally, considering I'm still fairly unsure how ppooll really works.
Nonetheless, if anyone can offer any info at any point, I'll be trying to make the manual more comprehensive as time goes on.