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greigoroth wrote: But seriously, would a Goatkeeper get you in the ballpark of those sounds? Or are they two tooootally different effects? I kinda couldn't work out what I was hearing from the demos I listened to.

univalve wrote:

greigoroth wrote: But seriously, would a Goatkeeper get you in the ballpark of those sounds? Or are they two tooootally different effects? I kinda couldn't work out what I was hearing from the demos I listened to.

Not really. They are both tremolos, the goatkeeper is highly adjustable, the slicer is "just" a pattern based choping tremolo.
The goatkeeper can do 4 steps of sequenced choping (depth control of the tremolo) that may sound like the slicer on specific settings. But that overlap is minimal. The slicer has far more and complex patterns that are not possible to adjust with the goatkeeper. Plus 2 of the 5 banks are with modulation.

Slicer unique features:
- MIDI in: it syncs to a MIDI click
- Looping of sliced sounds (wet only), tight to the click , you can only play with your dry signal over it which means no overdubs of slicer sounds (and general no overdubs in that built-in mini-looper)
- 50 patterns that are not editable (like take it or leave it), 20 with modulation: so there is minimal possibility of adjusting things to your needs.
- stereo ins and outs (that really blows your mind with headphones)

Goatkeeper unique features:
- 4 step sequencer, for each step the division can be set (triples etc.): so very unique tremolo design possible
- LFO: different waveshapes and the possibility to record your own wave shapes, LFO out that is CV compatible and works with Moogerfooger, Boss DSD-2 etc. Even if the goatkeeper tremolo effect is bypassed the LFO send still works
- syncs to an audio click signal

bigchiefbc wrote:

univalve wrote:

greigoroth wrote: But seriously, would a Goatkeeper get you in the ballpark of those sounds? Or are they two tooootally different effects? I kinda couldn't work out what I was hearing from the demos I listened to.

Not really. They are both tremolos, the goatkeeper is highly adjustable, the slicer is "just" a pattern based choping tremolo.
The goatkeeper can do 4 steps of sequenced choping (depth control of the tremolo) that may sound like the slicer on specific settings. But that overlap is minimal. The slicer has far more and complex patterns that are not possible to adjust with the goatkeeper. Plus 2 of the 5 banks are with modulation.

Slicer unique features:
- MIDI in: it syncs to a MIDI click
- Looping of sliced sounds (wet only), tight to the click , you can only play with your dry signal over it which means no overdubs of slicer sounds (and general no overdubs in that built-in mini-looper)
- 50 patterns that are not editable (like take it or leave it), 20 with modulation: so there is minimal possibility of adjusting things to your needs.
- stereo ins and outs (that really blows your mind with headphones)

Goatkeeper unique features:
- 4 step sequencer, for each step the division can be set (triples etc.): so very unique tremolo design possible
- LFO: different waveshapes and the possibility to record your own wave shapes, LFO out that is CV compatible and works with Moogerfooger, Boss DSD-2 etc. Even if the goatkeeper tremolo effect is bypassed the LFO send still works
- syncs to an audio click signal

Except the slicer isn't just a tremolo. There is some sort of filtering going on there as well. There are several patterns where the frequency of the signal noticeably shifts from step to step, and creates an arpeggiating effect. The Goatkeeper can't do that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgkZDox3t2A&t=3m1s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wMzUIkaZ-I&t=5m33s

univalve wrote:

bigchiefbc wrote:

univalve wrote:

greigoroth wrote: But seriously, would a Goatkeeper get you in the ballpark of those sounds? Or are they two tooootally different effects? I kinda couldn't work out what I was hearing from the demos I listened to.

Not really. They are both tremolos, the goatkeeper is highly adjustable, the slicer is "just" a pattern based choping tremolo.
The goatkeeper can do 4 steps of sequenced choping (depth control of the tremolo) that may sound like the slicer on specific settings. But that overlap is minimal. The slicer has far more and complex patterns that are not possible to adjust with the goatkeeper. Plus 2 of the 5 banks are with modulation.

Slicer unique features:
- MIDI in: it syncs to a MIDI click
- Looping of sliced sounds (wet only), tight to the click , you can only play with your dry signal over it which means no overdubs of slicer sounds (and general no overdubs in that built-in mini-looper)
- 50 patterns that are not editable (like take it or leave it), 20 with modulation: so there is minimal possibility of adjusting things to your needs.
- stereo ins and outs (that really blows your mind with headphones)

Goatkeeper unique features:
- 4 step sequencer, for each step the division can be set (triples etc.): so very unique tremolo design possible
- LFO: different waveshapes and the possibility to record your own wave shapes, LFO out that is CV compatible and works with Moogerfooger, Boss DSD-2 etc. Even if the goatkeeper tremolo effect is bypassed the LFO send still works
- syncs to an audio click signal

Except the slicer isn't just a tremolo. There is some sort of filtering going on there as well. There are several patterns where the frequency of the signal noticeably shifts from step to step, and creates an arpeggiating effect. The Goatkeeper can't do that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgkZDox3t2A&t=3m1s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wMzUIkaZ-I&t=5m33s

bigchiefbc wrote:Ah, my bad. I guess I didn't understand that you mean that filtered arpeggiation as modulation. So the modulation on the goatkeeper, is it capable of the arpeggiated effect that the slicer does? Or is it some other kind of modulation?