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Thanks to both of you for trying to figure this out.

My current set up is Guitar>Pedalboard>ABY>2 Amps (used simultaneously) each with their own cabs.
I would think this would be "Dual Mono".

I have a Stereo Wet on the way that I am planning on using to replace the ABY.
I'll be using the Mono input and Stereo outputs, 1 going to each amp.

In the manual for the Wet it says:
"If you wish for the stereo outputs to drive identical signals (dual mono), reprogram your pedal using
Pedal Customizer software and select the Menu → Force Mono option."

I was just wondering what the difference would be?

I guess I could just wait until I get the thing and find out for myself.

MEC wrote:Thanks to both of you for trying to figure this out.

My current set up is Guitar>Pedalboard>ABY>2 Amps (used simultaneously) each with their own cabs.
I would think this would be "Dual Mono".

I have a Stereo Wet on the way that I am planning on using to replace the ABY.
I'll be using the Mono input and Stereo outputs, 1 going to each amp.

In the manual for the Wet it says:
"If you wish for the stereo outputs to drive identical signals (dual mono), reprogram your pedal using
Pedal Customizer software and select the Menu → Force Mono option."

I was just wondering what the difference would be?

I guess I could just wait until I get the thing and find out for myself.

I would agree that your current rig is definitely dual mono. An ABY sends the same signal to both amps, while a stereo out of a pedal (reverb in this instance) tends to have some difference between the outputs while the effect is on. The stereo effect isn't always noticeable though, especially on something like reverb. If it is modulated, you probably notice it. But a plain ol' hall reverb is going to sound very similar to a dual mono output.

The4455 wrote:

snipelfritz wrote:OMG what the fuck does the presence knob do?

A presence knob controls the amount of treble in your signal so if the treble is all the way up but the presence is all the way down there will be "no" treble the more you turn up the presence knob the more of that trouble affects your guitar signal. And also upper fragile harmonics.

Thank you for this, I was never actually sure what it did.... but I play a JCM900 so I'm sure it doesn't matter anyway

WHY can you run a bass head through 10" or 15" speakers but consensus seems to say that using 12" ones would make the entire room explode

Could I buy my friends 4x10 with a 15 in the middle and use it with my 100w JCM900 for guitar? Obviously factoring in output levels and what have you....

I've heard a lot of people moving towards 12" speakers for bass. I myself just ordered a 1x12 bass cab, but I plan on using it both on guitar and bass through the same head.

I used a 4x10 + a 1x15 on guitar as my first rig and it sounded great. It was pretty heavy sounding, even clean. The 15" really brings low end.

skullservant wrote:I've heard a lot of people moving towards 12" speakers for bass. I myself just ordered a 1x12 bass cab, but I plan on using it both on guitar and bass through the same head.

I used a 4x10 + a 1x15 on guitar as my first rig and it sounded great. It was pretty heavy sounding, even clean. The 15" really brings low end.

Good to know - I might have a chance to buy a big bass fridge cab from a friend with no speakers and wanted to think about various options - like maybe 4/10's and a 15 or 4x12 perchance, but to use mostly with guitar and sometime for bass if I bought a solid state head....

I'd love to be able to use my guitar head for both bass and guitar, but I know you're not supposed to do that either

As long as you have a cab that can handle bass, it doesn't matter much. Bass into a guitar cab won't work, but bass into a guitar head into a bass cab would. It's more about the speakers being able to handle it than the head!

I'm running a Peavey Rock Master 120w head into a guitar cab right now and the guitar cab sounds like it is crying every time I play bass through it. I'm getting a bass 1x12 though, and it will sound fantastic and be able to handle the lows!

skullservant wrote:As long as you have a cab that can handle bass, it doesn't matter much. Bass into a guitar cab won't work, but bass into a guitar head into a bass cab would. It's more about the speakers being able to handle it than the head!

okay that makes sense. I remember someone mentioning "damaging the transformer" if you plugged a bass into it, but never had any verification of this

I'm a "cautious and careful" sort of bloke

Yeah. Just did some reading and although some transformers are frequency limited, it shouldn't make a difference or harm the transformers if you run a bass through a guitar head. The worst you're looking at is losing some deep deep low end!

Also, some amps tend to run hotter with a lower frequency input.
If your amp has a fan, it's probably no big deal but if not, you may want to add one.

Running a bass into a guitar head works just fine, as long as the amp's transformers are beefy enough. I sold my "bass" head and now run my bass exclusively through my Bugera 1960, which is technically a "guitar" head. It sounds awesome and has plenty of bottom end, as long as I use a bass cab.

But either way, it definitely will not blow anything in the amp. The only thing that could be wrecked by sending it too much bass is the speakers. That's why going with bass speakers is much more important if you're ever going to run bass through it.

bigchiefbc wrote:Running a bass into a guitar head works just fine, as long as the amp's transformers are beefy enough. I sold my "bass" head and now run my bass exclusively through my Bugera 1960, which is technically a "guitar" head. It sounds awesome and has plenty of bottom end, as long as I use a bass cab.

But either way, it definitely will not blow anything in the amp. The only thing that could be wrecked by sending it too much bass is the speakers. That's why going with bass speakers is much more important if you're ever going to run bass through it.

I started doing this too, ever since I got my Blackstar Artisan and Fender Showman. The natural overdrive/dist from blasting the amps into my Mesa bass cabs is just......glorious.

bigchiefbc wrote:Running a bass into a guitar head works just fine, as long as the amp's transformers are beefy enough. I sold my "bass" head and now run my bass exclusively through my Bugera 1960, which is technically a "guitar" head. It sounds awesome and has plenty of bottom end, as long as I use a bass cab.

But either way, it definitely will not blow anything in the amp. The only thing that could be wrecked by sending it too much bass is the speakers. That's why going with bass speakers is much more important if you're ever going to run bass through it.

man, i've been contemplating on getting one of those off ebay to use with guitar and bass. i imagine it would be pretty crunchy on bass though, and i like my bass a little cleaner for what i play these days.

WeHuntKings wrote:
man, i've been contemplating on getting one of those off ebay to use with guitar and bass. i imagine it would be pretty crunchy on bass though, and i like my bass a little cleaner for what i play these days.

Bi-amp setup

One of the coolest and best tones I've ever dialed up, was going into a clean bass amp and a distorted guitar amp.

I've only used this setup on a few gigs, since hauling a full bass and guitar rig is a major pain in the ass. (That was two 4x10 Mesa Roadready cab's and a half stack Dual Rectifier)