live-i-evil wrote:Hell yeah dude, glad the show went well! I wish I could have stopped by after we played, it would have been perfect, especially since Darrwn was there, but this drive is long. We're still in the fucking van and we left right after the show last night, got another 6 hours to go. Hopefully I'll catch you guys next time I'm up this way.
Man you guys are dedicated. I wish I could devote that kind of time and energy. Maybe down the road, I never say never.
We'll meet up man, either we'll come down there or next time you come this way. Till then another long distance clink of the beer mugs to ya
vidret wrote:i use a kahler trem on one of my guitars. perfect tune, i fuck that shit up slayer style basically everytime i play it, hardly ever tune it.
don't see the downsides of a kahler, some people whine about the loss of sustain though.
I think thats the only trem I haven't used. Its a locking system right? Any preference to that over a floyd? I used to be a floyd rose fanatic till I got into the 12 string thing. If they made a 12 string version I'd be using it.
AngryGoldfish wrote:How do you do the over under stringing technique exactly? Is it easy enough to explain in writing?
I'll give it a shot, apologies if I fail at making it clear enough.
Basically most folks put the string through the hole in the tuner and then wind the rest of the slack on underneath where the excess string length sticks out. For most hardtails this is adequate as the only stress put on the string is from bends and aggressive pick attack. On a trem equipped guitar you can de-tension the string or radically tighten it which can loosen the wind around the tuner post causing the guitar to go out of tune.
With the over under thing, you are using the string that is wound around the post to clamp down on that excess bit and keep it from moving through the hole in the tuning peg.
Basically you put the string through the hole without it being so slack that you will have to do a bunch of winding around the peg to reach pitch, you don't want to many extra winds as these can also loosen up.
As you turn the tuner to sharpen the pitch, when you get to the point where the excess will cross over the string that sounds the note, GO OVER IT ON THE FIRST PASS ONLY.
Continue winding and on the second pass go under the excess string so that the winds around the tuning peg clamp down on the bit that sticks out.
Continue to tune to pitch as normal, in a perfect world only one more time around tops, but thats not totally essential.
I'm also a fan of locking tuners but this method works for me just about as well, is cheaper and if you resell the guitar, the tuners still say Fender on them
Another good trick is some graphite in the nut slots, can be done with a pencil although I found some graphite oil at a hardware store that is slick as shit and easy to apply. it just helps keep the string from binding in the nut which can also get you out of tune in a hurry. Ensuring that the nut slots are the correct size for the strings you use also helps a lot. Especially for you guys that downtune and use extremely thick strings this can be a major factor.
If anybody's ever in my area, feel free to come by and I'll gladly do a setup, show you the tricks I know, and show off the DOOM RIGS OF STUPID BIGNESS.
Also if anybody has anything to add to this or other tricks that work for them I'd love to hear it. getting learned is a good.