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Re: I want a Science Amplifier
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:04 am
by waltdogg
I only have one reaction for this and it's:
He's obviously trying to bite into Alex's market with the aesthetic and I see a #hiwatt in the caption so...

Re: I want a Science Amplifier
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:08 am
by D.o.S.
That builder, incidentally, is sort of famous around here for deleting any comments related to his products (or his optimistic shipping schedules) that were negative in his Shark Tank. Prior to just deleting everything in his shark tank.
I would feel very comfortable with the designation "swagger-jacker" regardless of the circuitry. Not even just the Orange font everyone steals for his faux OR preamp, but stuff like this:
http://midnightamplificationdevices.big ... oduct/omen
Esp. when it's clear that, you know, he's been active in the same places as someone like Laowiz (or Science), so the happy accident odds decrease immensely.
Re: I want a Science Amplifier
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:12 am
by waltdogg
D.o.S. wrote:That builder, incidentally, is sort of famous around here for deleting any comments related to his products (or his optimistic shipping schedules) that were negative in his Shark Tank. Prior to just deleting everything in his shark tank.
I would feel very comfortable with the designation "swagger-jacker" regardless of the circuitry.
Wow. That's such an apt description for builders like Midnight.
Well if he knew we were big on Science and was rolling out a rip off soon, on top of a bad track record I think the stars just aligned.
Re: I want a Science Amplifier
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:15 am
by D.o.S.
For anyone interested in that:
Barracuda wrote:insubordination wrote:I'll tell you what I have anti-GAS for: anything from Midnight Amplification Devices. Dude is deleting posts of dissatisfied buyers from his Shark Tank noting that:
- He takes about four months to send pedals with no communication, and makes excuses instead of just taking responsibility
- Pretty much only sends pedals once you have filed a Paypal dispute
- Lies about when he ships pedals
I guess the only good thing is that of the half dozen ILFers I've been in touch with, everyone gets their shit eventually, it's just like pulling teeth to even get a fucking response. So note that I'm not calling this dude a scam artist or ripoff, just stating he is not being transparent. And in the end who gives a shit, they're just pedals, right?
I don't know Nic personally, maybe he's a great guy in real life. But I think it's pretty disrespectful to take money from people then just leave them hanging, make excuses when called out, and offer them hollow gestures like a discount instead of just owning up to being overwhelmed with orders or whatever the case, while listing new pedals and promising a delivery time of two weeks when others have been waiting four months.
Maybe this is bad form and I am usually pretty drama-averse, but deleting posts of dissatisfied buyers is pretty weak.
Damn, I just went and saw my posts got deleted (except for the one where I talked about how good the pedal sounded). I mean shit, I wasn't even being mean in that thread, just said there was confusion / excuses with the shipping, and it took about 4 months to get my Holy Mountain. For shame. There's nothing wrong with telling people they'll probably have to wait 4 - 5 months when you're one guy with a lot of orders for pedals, but fer chrissakes, tell them.
But this has not so much to do with Science Amps, which are rad.
Re: I want a Science Amplifier
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:26 am
by waltdogg
Unfortunately it does not.
Just super bummed to see that picture when we're waiting with baited breath for the new Science models.
Re: I want a Science Amplifier
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:46 am
by Science Amps
Wow, I left an a comment twice on that IG post, but he keeps deleting it. Why rip off another small builder's style so blatantly? I don't believe any thinking person would do that. I'm sure it's not a copy of any of my circuits, but it's clearly a biting my style. Oh well, I guess imitation is the highest form of flattery? Of course this stuff happens all the time in the amp building world, but it's definitely a first for me!
As for new stuff coming this year, I'm working on a ton of stuff, but focusing on getting amps out the door at the moment. I got really slammed right around the new year. Santa was good to y'all apparently.
Re: I want a Science Amplifier
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:48 am
by waltdogg
Unfortunately that dude is pure sketch. There's a million and one ways to go into this but it's just not cool plain and simple.
That's good to hear.
Re: I want a Science Amplifier
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:44 am
by neonblack
Midnight Amplification is the Martin Shkreli of the pedal and amp world.
Re: I want a Science Amplifier
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 8:12 am
by untilshewokeme
what a fucking low life scum bag.
Re: I want a Science Amplifier
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:14 am
by krr149
Tried to order a Midnight Amps pedal when the Shark Tank forum was open. Never received it and had to open a dispute to get my money back.
On the other hand, Alex has been great at taking my questions and communicating during the building of my Mother amp and I'm so, so pumped about it.
Re: I want a Science Amplifier
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:18 pm
by casecandy
neonblack wrote:Midnight Amplification is the Martin Shkreli of the pedal and amp world.
Here I was thinking Joel "Buttpussy" Wheeler was the Martin Shkreli of the pedal and amp world.
Re: I want a Science Amplifier
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:21 pm
by casecandy
Anyway, I was going to order a Holy Mountain, and after reading this page of this thread, I'm pretty glad that I did not. Wasn't aware of this fuckery.
Re: I want a Science Amplifier
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:22 pm
by neonblack
Please call your next amp the Midnight.
Re: I want a Science Amplifier
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:22 pm
by casecandy
neonblack wrote:Please call your next amp the Midnight.
Re: I want a Science Amplifier
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:23 pm
by waltdogg
casecandy wrote:neonblack wrote:Please call your next amp the Midnight.
I'd love to see that dude send Alex a bunch of irate emails and comments.