It’s back from the dead! The TB Mega Thread.

[Deltaphoenix]

AWW thanks! I don't need DURTY RECORD EXEC DICK IN MY MOUTH! Just trying to spread the word more. It was cool when I was talking to the owner and he was telling me what he digs about our sound "TELL ME MOAR!"

I started a thread and so far Carl Saff mastering seems like a very reasonable price, and he has worked with a lot of bands/labels.

Here is the thread:http://www.ilovefuzz.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=26402

[Waterpilot]

he's a nice ass dooder. he's always gotten back to me relatively quickly. lemme know what he says?

I sure will... I e-mailed him at his site but it was late at night when I was half asleep. I haven't heard from him yet but now it makes me wonder if I mis-typed my e-mail in. Haha So now I'm not sure if he's just a little behind or my e-mail didn't work. I hate that.

[dubkitty]

this sounds like a great thing, but please, please have an attorney who knows their shit check any agreement out before you sign anything. the history of rock is littered with bands who spent decades litigating pieces of paper they signed back when they were local heroes/zeroes. Jimi Hendrix was in court from his first hit record until the day he died, the Jefferson Airplane spent over twenty years in court with their early manager i.e. they were individual defendants in a lawsuit longer than they were an actual band, and the surviving members of Moby Grape are still in and out of litigation with the same guy--one Matthew Katz--to this day. a lawyer might cost you and your cohorts a few hundred bucks, but split up between yas it's cheap compared to the prospect of a Rebecca Black-style Who Owns The Cheese claim or worse.

[Bassus Sanguinis]

^do not underestimate the profound wisdom stated above.

Where to find a lawyer to read that contract through? Ask another label lawyer, they do that stuff anyway all the time. Ask how much he'd charge for reading the contract through with You and explain it to You.

I totally understand doing biz in not too biz manner - Mr Exec would You please let me catch a little breath thank You - but at least consider the possible chances of getting royally screwed and how to avoid it. That's all.

So. Other than that, sounds great!

[dubkitty]

yeah, i'm not saying be a prick or a prima donna, i'm just saying you can't spell Create Your Art without CYA. you do have your material copyrighted already, yes? if not, have it sorted BEFORE you sign anything, so you own it on legal record and at least have your right to it established to sign away LOL. really, if you want to be covered-covered, you should copyright a new composition before you play it in public so somebody can't kype it. you can bet your tootelum that bands on the level of Metallica or Radiohead do that, or that the Grateful Dead copyrighted the raft of unreleased material they toured for much of the 80s before recording same.

[dubkitty]

by they way, "tootelum" (tuu-tell-uhm) is my favorite colloquialism for lady parts, though it may actually be more accurately be a euphemism for "perineum." its origin is in old blues songs of the 1920s-30s, a good source for colloquialisms of all types.

[bigchiefbc]

yeah, i'm not saying be a prick or a prima donna, i'm just saying you can't spell Create Your Art without CYA. you do have your material copyrighted already, yes? if not, have it sorted BEFORE you sign anything, so you own it on legal record and at least have your right to it established to sign away LOL. really, if you want to be covered-covered, you should copyright a new composition before you play it in public so somebody can't kype it. you can bet your tootelum that bands on the level of Metallica or Radiohead do that, or that the Grateful Dead copyrighted the raft of unreleased material they toured for much of the 80s before recording same.

Just a quick addendum to this, you do not actually need to register a copyright with the US PTO before you own it. It's not like getting a patent. The state of the law is that you own the copyright for any artistic work the second it is "fixed in some tangible medium". So that means either recorded on some medium, or sheet music written down, or lyrics written down, or anything along those lines. As long as you have your music recorded on a physical tape/record/cd or an MP3 file or whatever, you already OWN the copyright to the music. All registering it does is give you a few extra legal remedies later on when you want to sue someone.

[My name is Mudd]

Girl Parts story - One of my responsibilities in the last high-end bike shop that I worked for in Palo Alto was to do bike fittings (positioning the rider correctly on the bike is HUGELY important). One afternoon, a female friend of a shop regular came in with her bike to see me about a fitting; her knees were bothering her and "...my cookie hurts after about 20 miles or so..." (her saddle was too high and she was rocking side to side with each pedal stroke). I did my thing, including lowering the saddle a bit and sent her on her way. The following Sunday (my day off), I saw her out on the road; as I passed her, I asked how she was feeling. She told the ENTIRE UNIVERSE that her cookie "loved me!!!"

[snipelfritz]

Girl Parts story - One of my responsibilities in the last high-end bike shop that I worked for in Palo Alto was to do bike fittings (positioning the rider correctly on the bike is HUGELY important). One afternoon, a female friend of a shop regular came in with her bike to see me about a fitting; her knees were bothering her and "...my cookie hurts after about 20 miles or so..." (her saddle was too high and she was rocking side to side with each pedal stroke). I did my thing, including lowering the saddle a bit and sent her on her way. The following Sunday (my day off), I saw her out on the road; as I passed her, I asked how she was feeling. She told the ENTIRE UNIVERSE that her cookie "loved me!!!"

and then??? C'mon, please tell me this story ends with some sweet, sweet love making...

And for the record, I own Rebecca Black.

[dubkitty]

is she she so excited?

[behndy]

uhf. you can HAVE her. but only on Fridays.

DESTROY THE COOKIE.

[snipelfritz]

uhf. you can HAVE her. but only on Fridays.

DESTROY THE COOKIE.

Nah this just a legal agreement. I keep much hotter sex slaves in my stable.

And dubkat you now owe me $20,000 for unliscenced paraphrasing of the song I hold the copyright to.

Damn, I'd make a quality corporate villain. I just need some more sweater vests, yknow for the yacht club.

[My name is Mudd]

Nothing further came out of my fixing her sore cookie...due partly to her being gay, for one thing. Sorry.

[Deltaphoenix]

WOW, I appreciate the warnings and concern. I have heard the horror stories. I have access to free legal advice and representation because I go to the University of Florida and their Law School ain't nothin' to be fucked with! Once a year, UF puts on a music industry and Entertainment law conference, some decently big people come out, A&Rs for Sony, Capital and other labels, as well as established Attorneys in this field. There is also stuff for musicians to attend. My singer and I have attend some of this event before. Then there are shows in town related to the event, A&R people attend, etc. Well, we have played one of those shows before. But I digress, this company we are working with knows how the industry is changing and is not holding on to a dying business model. This is an open-ended agreement on our end, we can cease working with them when we choose, and are not contractually obligated to stay with them IF (big if) a bigger label wants us, or wants us to do a split, whatever. Our agreement is exclusively related to this one EP, with an option for another. They aren't paying for the recording off the EP, we already recorded it, it just needs mastering, which we are going to do out of pocket. We have no way to become in debt to this little record label. Essentially, we have about 1/2 of "record deal". They distribute, and promote the EP and us, as well as increase our booking contacts (and booking is still our responsibility). So, what I reasonably expect is that our online presence will increase, leading to more "likes" and "fans" on certain websites, that our EP will find it's way to different online music reviews, a couple of interviews, a couple thousand sales on Itunes or whatever, and some decent gigs.

[excane]

Girl Parts story - One of my responsibilities in the last high-end bike shop that I worked for in Palo Alto was to do bike fittings (positioning the rider correctly on the bike is HUGELY important). One afternoon, a female friend of a shop regular came in with her bike to see me about a fitting; her knees were bothering her and "...my cookie hurts after about 20 miles or so..." (her saddle was too high and she was rocking side to side with each pedal stroke). I did my thing, including lowering the saddle a bit and sent her on her way. The following Sunday (my day off), I saw her out on the road; as I passed her, I asked how she was feeling. She told the ENTIRE UNIVERSE that her cookie "loved me!!!"

A lady midget walked into the doctor's office.

She says.... "Doc, every time it rains I get a terrible pain in my cookie"

The Doc puts her up on the table, examines and works on her for a few minutes, then she hops back down.

She says "Doc, I feel great!! What did you do?"











Doc says "I trimmed 3 inches off the top of your rain boots"