Twin Dongs and the Eighth Dimension

[D.o.S.]

41% of trans people will commit suicide in their lifetimes.

Yes, it's an important issue.

Millions now living will never die.

It's an important album.

It is incredible.

If we're talking '90s post-rock, I like it better than Spiderland, TBH.

We agree on something.

[Sparkfriction]

...1) Devi built pedals very good fuzz pedals back in the day under the name Effector 13 and then under Devi Ever

...

i read this many times. Dont get me wrong or hate me and i know you guys are all down for crazy fuzz pedals / designs. i think it is/was intressting stuff but never good pedals. i know this is not the topic...

[D.o.S.]

The big hook to Devi stuff, at least from where I was sitting at the time, was that it was "affordable boutique/small builder pedals with a defining aesthetic" in a time where that description was going to be way more expensive than the Boss equivalent, rather than competitive with it.

[Sparkfriction]

indeed. to be honest, the devi stuff was one of the first "different" stuff i discovered. But for me it was just the beginning before i went down the hole into boutique pedals. back in time when i startet with pedals, a used FUzz Factory was way easier to get for me in germany as a devi pedal. And it didnt took a long time to understand whats the real deal thanks to all the communitys.

[behndy]

yur. i never liked her stuff. but she doesn't design for bass friendly loot.

was cheap though. she made a huge difference back when she focused on getting decent cheap sorta weird shizz out there when there was not a lot of other smaller boutiquey builder humans. but i never thought her stuff was innovative. and everything sounded like squishy poo on the bass bass.

[The_Active_Conundrum]

The big hook to Devi stuff, at least from where I was sitting at the time, was that it was "affordable boutique/small builder pedals with a defining aesthetic" in a time where that description was going to be way more expensive than the Boss equivalent, rather than competitive with it.

Yeah, weird, different competitively priced, made by a person. For a while it was even sold by Musician's Friend. it felt goo buying her stuff. which is why I kept doing it. it was a valuable crash course in fuzz. Now that I'm "educated", I see there's better options

[D.o.S.]

Related:
http://www.stereogum.com/1811217/jimmy- ... kins/news/

[aen]

I didn't read it. But here is my predictive summation:

"Unable to find steady and extremely high paying work elsewhere, Jimmy Chambermaid crawls back to the irrelevant but still financially viable hand that fed him for so many years."

[Confuzzled]

I didn't read it. But here is my predictive summation:

"Unable to find steady and extremely high paying work elsewhere, Jimmy Chambermaid crawls back to the irrelevant but still financially viable hand that fed him for so many years."

Ouch.

[onyxrhino]

The big hook to Devi stuff, at least from where I was sitting at the time, was that it was "affordable boutique/small builder pedals with a defining aesthetic" in a time where that description was going to be way more expensive than the Boss equivalent, rather than competitive with it.

Yeah, weird, different competitively priced, made by a person. For a while it was even sold by Musician's Friend. it felt goo buying her stuff. which is why I kept doing it. it was a valuable crash course in fuzz. Now that I'm "educated", I see there's better options

I really liked devi's stuff back in her heyday. Little noise machines in cute graphics that were (usually) inexpensive, unpretentious and ran on batteries. And you could buy them easily.

They weren't the most versatile fuzzes, but you could make some dying gear, utter wreck sounds with them that were hard to find elsewhere.

I still love my Never Drive. And my Dream Mangler is alot of fun. Even the Punch Love can sound great in front of other fuzzes. And I'm kicking myself that I didn't keep the one pagoda Torn's Peaker I had that sounded like raw garage band heaven (the other TPs I've tried haven't sounded the same).

But, I can't really get into the Dwarfcraft versions (I try not to buy simple pedals that don't offer a battery option, and I don't really care for the aesthetics) and I don't think I'd feel right buying from devi again. Oh well, nothing lasts forever. AT least there are more manufacturers today offering gear for broken sounds.

[Dungus]

I didn't read it. But here is my predictive summation:

"Unable to find steady and extremely high paying work elsewhere, Jimmy Chambermaid crawls back to the irrelevant but still financially viable hand that fed him for so many years."

I don't think there's much crawling involved when it comes to Jimmy C playing for Smashing Pumpkins, Corgan is probably desperate to have him back, doubly so considering he's had to play with Brad Wilk for the last couple of years. Nothing against the former RATM drummer, but he's no Jimmy Chambermaid! It's like if Nirvana never fired Chad Channing.

https://youtu.be/jDLwAoq2-KA

[Spiteface]

Yeah, the way this is being presented, JC's only back for this tour. Smashing Pumpkins continues to be Billy Corgan + revolving door of whoever he hasn't pissed off yet.

JC's got other shit to do now (probably less lucrative, but better for his sanity), so I won't expect him back full time.

As for the main subject of this thread (Yeah, I read all of it because I have far too much free time)... yikes. I love Devi Ever's pedals (the Rocket was the first "boutique" fuzz I owned, and wanting to know more about that sort of thing is what brought me to ILF in the first place years ago), but can she do ANYTHING without drama (I already know the answer to this question)?

I would not be shocked if you guys at Dwarfcraft wanted to just ditch the name but bring the DE pedals under the Dwarfcraft banner. I don't really know how much name value Devi Ever still has attached to fuzz pedals... I'm considering getting a new Hyperion, actually.

[KaosCill8r]

I think the Devi Ever name is being devalued more and more as this drama continues. Maybe Dwarfcraft would be better off making these pedals under the name of Drama4 Ever I think it's an appropriate name.

[goroth]

I think the Devi Ever name is being devalued more and more as this drama continues. Maybe Dwarfcraft would be better off making these pedals under the name of Drama4 Ever I think it's an appropriate name.

I've been staying out of this thread because
1. Devi as a person and a brand is very important to the whole fuzz thing
2. Mr and Mrs Dwarfcraft are super nice and are responsible for a shit load of great pedz and great vibes
3. Everything that has gone down is Amateur As Fuck (except for Mr/s Dwarf's posts in this thread which have been remarkably PAF).

But I think there's something interesting in what you've written Kaos.

Devi as a person regardless of behaviour has fairly high profile within the pedal buying public.
Devi as a brand even more so.
Joe Average can't separate the two.
Devi as a person has no access to Devi as a brand.
Create a shit storm, devalue the brand.
Reacquire brand because Mr and Mrs Dwarf already have one successful business and with all the shit one has to put up with running a business anyway, why bother with more right?
Reunite Devi the person and brand.
Profit.

[casecandy]

Dwarfcraft should just co-opt the Devi pedals as Dwarfcraft pedals.

Because at this point, they are...

I mean the new Silver Rose literally has an ECT circuit in it...?