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Re: Everything Sucks (Except For These Records from 2020)

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:46 am
by cantremember
coldbrightsunlight wrote::lol:

It has also got me to listen to Nirvana again which isn't a bad thing.
This.

I actually watched nirvana live videos because for some reason they popped up in my youtube feed. I didn't even talk about them out loud so I don't know why that happen. Usually I'll have that kinda stuff pop up when I talk about it in passing because they're always listening.

Re: Everything Sucks (Except For These Records from 2020)

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:12 pm
by coldbrightsunlight
I was talking to a friend recently who is an expert on data security and similar. His take on this is that while we all notice these funny coincidences, it's astonishingly unlikely they're actually listening to our conversations, because of the enormous amount of data transfer and processing (human or AI) that would be required to constantly listen to people and then to extract meaningful data from that audio. They're definitely getting stuff from virtual assistant 'conversations', google searches, location tracking, spotify, facebook/instagram clicks, youtube etc.

So, they are totally gathering data about you from a variety of sources but it's unlikely they're listening all the time, or at least if they ARE it's very unlikely they're deriving much of value from the audio. It's potentially even MORE creepy depending how you think about it, that the algorithms are smart enough to recommend things to us that we haven't even searched for.

See this article which basically says the same thing. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-49585682
The results won't surprise those in the information security industry who've known for years that the truth is that tech giants know so much about us that they don't actually need to listen to our conversations to serve us targeted adverts.

The reality is that advertisers have sophisticated ways of profiling users.

Location data, browsing history and tracking pixels, for example all provide enough information to predict what you might be thinking about buying.

Re: Everything Sucks (Except For These Records from 2020)

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:35 pm
by D.o.S.
This is why GDPR caused everyone in the business to freak the fuck out a couple of years ago

But, yeah, anytime you're logging into XYZ via Google or Facebook or whatever it's all cross-shared data.

Re: Everything Sucks (Except For These Records from 2020)

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:10 pm
by cantremember
That is an interesting article. I did listen to it on Spotify and I text one of my friends about it so that makes sense but that is definitely a little creepy and kinda makes me rethink getting away from my phone so much.

Re: Everything Sucks (Except For These Records from 2020)

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:24 pm
by coldbrightsunlight
It's totally creepy! As I said I think this is actually creepier than if they were just listening to everything.

But the fact that it's all cross-shared, and also that algorithms can figure out preferences you have not ever googled or spotified or read about on facebook. Very sci-fi and not in a great way.

Re: Everything Sucks (Except For These Records from 2020)

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:09 am
by fcknoise
cantremember wrote:
coldbrightsunlight wrote::lol:

It has also got me to listen to Nirvana again which isn't a bad thing.
This.

I actually watched nirvana live videos because for some reason they popped up in my youtube feed. I didn't even talk about them out loud so I don't know why that happen. Usually I'll have that kinda stuff pop up when I talk about it in passing because they're always listening.
well i know that someone very recently uploaded the entire unplugged concert in a remastered hd version or whatever, so the explanation might be a lot less nefarious in this case.

Re: Everything Sucks (Except For These Records from 2020)

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:15 pm
by goroth
D.o.S. wrote:This is why GDPR caused everyone in the business to freak the fuck out a couple of years ago

But, yeah, anytime you're logging into XYZ via Google or Facebook or whatever it's all cross-shared data.
This is why I don't log in to anything via Google or facebook.

Re: Everything Sucks (Except For These Records from 2020)

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:15 pm
by goroth
https://listen.20buckspin.com/album/providence

I'm listening to this now and it seems good 3 minutes in.

Re: Everything Sucks (Except For These Records from 2020)

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 7:57 am
by D.o.S.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxQJUzUfmxU[/youtube]

Looks like they're doing a whole album of covers?

Re: Everything Sucks (Except For These Records from 2020)

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:15 am
by coldbrightsunlight
:excellent:

The Southern Man cover is top notch. March of the Pigs felt a little rote.

Re: Everything Sucks (Except For These Records from 2020)

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:18 am
by D.o.S.
Shut it down threads over
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL1odyk7QmU[/youtube]

Re: Everything Sucks (Except For These Records from 2020)

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:56 am
by goroth
Ulcerate begs to differ.

As does Alestorm.

Re: Everything Sucks (Except For These Records from 2020)

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:14 pm
by coldbrightsunlight
Nice! Still need a bit more listening to digest I think as my head's all over the place right now. But the album should be good.

Ulcerate maybe but alestorm... why am I friends with you guys

Re: Everything Sucks (Except For These Records from 2020)

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:41 pm
by D.o.S.
Alestorm is one of the few contenders to the crown tbh

Re: Everything Sucks (Except For These Records from 2020)

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:10 pm
by goroth
It would be if Ulcerate wasn't a band.