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After a day of looking at the guitar I still dig it. Wave one of gas has been breached. Reminds me a lot of their model The Armada? Maybe I got the name wrong... I don't know. I've never played one other than a musicman bass, but I really loved that.
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(Re: headstock)popvulture wrote:Yeah I agree that it doesn't match ideally, but I don't think it's that odd. And after all, it's Ernie Ball's main/signature visual element, and there's absolutely nothing about the guitar that represents the norm of the brand otherwise, so... they had to hold onto something.
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Holy shit yeah. My first thought was: "That guitar looks like Klaus Nomi!"lost in music wrote:i love it. it's like a klaus nomi firebird.
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Yeah, I really dig the guitar but I don't like the brown and black together like that. The body looks like a product of design and industry and the neck looks too natural in contrast.
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Not really, the guitar just has some *very* specific features that are polarizing.
I'd play a SRV Strat if I picked up one that was magical and I *had* to have it. Same with this one.
But off the shelf, looking ait it, devoid of artist association, the "why I'm not very stoked":
- $1899 USD for what's effectively a 80s off-brand style instrument...nopenopenope.
- Rosewood neck I've always associated with those 70s Indian POS Sunn Strat copies and their ilk. Godawful import garbage from a time best left forgotten.
- No "have to have" features - boring ol' trem, boring ol' PU options/switching.
- Not a fan of the colors (and at the street expected price...I pretty much have to love it).
I'd play a SRV Strat if I picked up one that was magical and I *had* to have it. Same with this one.
But off the shelf, looking ait it, devoid of artist association, the "why I'm not very stoked":
- $1899 USD for what's effectively a 80s off-brand style instrument...nopenopenope.
- Rosewood neck I've always associated with those 70s Indian POS Sunn Strat copies and their ilk. Godawful import garbage from a time best left forgotten.
- No "have to have" features - boring ol' trem, boring ol' PU options/switching.
- Not a fan of the colors (and at the street expected price...I pretty much have to love it).
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I like this guitar, I like mini hums and every Ernie Ball/Musciman instrument I've touched felt like it had songs in it. The body shape is a plus and I don't care about headstock. Ernie Ball do that I think because they're a bass company first and the 5 string basses have that look.
If I was in the market for a guitar, I'd buy it.
I'm also happy for her, she a great musician and brought fuzz and distortion and weirdness in approachable songs to people who like Top 40 crap.
If I was in the market for a guitar, I'd buy it.
I'm also happy for her, she a great musician and brought fuzz and distortion and weirdness in approachable songs to people who like Top 40 crap.
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Haha I'm sure we could find more divisive issues...oldangelmidnight wrote:Holy shit yeah. My first thought was: "That guitar looks like Klaus Nomi!"lost in music wrote:i love it. it's like a klaus nomi firebird.
Apparently St. Vincent is the most divisive thing on ILF?
Yeah, I really dig the guitar but I don't like the brown and black together like that. The body looks like a product of design and industry and the neck looks too natural in contrast.
I'm in the camp where I completely love St Vincent, and I think the LOOKS of the guitar are stellar but for me the pickups/trem and general functional stuff are beyond boring. Find me a cheaper single pickup no frills model and I'd play the hell out of it because it looks awesome.
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So what is it that people don't like about the trem? It's a custom one for her guitar, but looks to me the same as a strat one. Seems people in these parts prefer a jazzmaster style trem? I always just assumed that was for te behind the bridge action?
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It's a feel thing too.. strats and floyds vs bigsby, jazz/jag and KahllerPeteeBee wrote:So what is it that people don't like about the trem? It's a custom one for her guitar, but looks to me the same as a strat one. Seems people in these parts prefer a jazzmaster style trem? I always just assumed that was for te behind the bridge action?
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See now that is interesting. I haven't spent enough time with all of those. Never played a strat, just a bigsby and a jazzmaster, but neither a lot. I know I preferred the jazzmaster. I've read a lot about Kahller vs Floyd. Guess I should go try a strat and a Floyd.Mudfuzz wrote:It's a feel thing too.. strats and floyds vs bigsby, jazz/jag and KahllerPeteeBee wrote:So what is it that people don't like about the trem? It's a custom one for her guitar, but looks to me the same as a strat one. Seems people in these parts prefer a jazzmaster style trem? I always just assumed that was for te behind the bridge action?
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I've found it depends on uses. I mean I prefer jazzmaster style trems in general because of subtle bending but I'm not going to use one in my grind band. I need to dive bomb into the mosh parts. And dive bomb instead of playing proper solos. And dive bomb between songs. And dive bombs, can't forget those.
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Alright, just got back from seeing St. Vincent at the Hollywood Bowl (my wife is a big fan). Most of the show was played with the new signature guitar and it looked better in person to me (maybe seeing it proportion helped). She started the show with a Tele but also played two Musicman Albert Lees and what I think was a Fender Duo Sonic (or something like it) with a Roland Hex pickup built in.
But most of the show was with the new guitar.It fit really well with the aesthetic.
The trem on the signature guitar made total sense for her actually. She doesn't really use it that much; just taps it here or there and make during a few texture parts. She uses a capo quite a bit too. I see why she didn't need cooler/better trem (and the style fits with the guitar). The arm actually looked even shorter on the one she was playing.
The other equipment (which was different from when we saw her in April) was a Moog Taurus/Akai midi controller (used to be a sub phatty I think) and there used to also be a voyager but it looked like a controller now (not sure though). The leads and guitar parts were actually better and it seems like she is actually working and changing the song (and improving) which is actually nice because it gets a little old when people just play the same stuff the same way everytime. Took one of her songs very fluidly into a Depeche Mode cover and did some other alright stuff. The overall set was just a little slower and less rock than last time...this one was just more focused on the current album. Just nice to get different shows (seen other bands and get the same show, even after years).
There were these two silly dancers that were really off and distracting in silver through most of the show.
But most of the show was with the new guitar.It fit really well with the aesthetic.
The trem on the signature guitar made total sense for her actually. She doesn't really use it that much; just taps it here or there and make during a few texture parts. She uses a capo quite a bit too. I see why she didn't need cooler/better trem (and the style fits with the guitar). The arm actually looked even shorter on the one she was playing.
The other equipment (which was different from when we saw her in April) was a Moog Taurus/Akai midi controller (used to be a sub phatty I think) and there used to also be a voyager but it looked like a controller now (not sure though). The leads and guitar parts were actually better and it seems like she is actually working and changing the song (and improving) which is actually nice because it gets a little old when people just play the same stuff the same way everytime. Took one of her songs very fluidly into a Depeche Mode cover and did some other alright stuff. The overall set was just a little slower and less rock than last time...this one was just more focused on the current album. Just nice to get different shows (seen other bands and get the same show, even after years).
There were these two silly dancers that were really off and distracting in silver through most of the show.
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because it looks the best and the original V headstock is shitMudfuzz wrote:like that combo… but then I have a V with a les paul neck.. and I like it!
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A Flying V would look much better with a Reverse Firebird headstock.
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