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Re: Which fuzz on bass to avoid getting drowned in the mix
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:46 am
by SmallEQ
jrmy wrote:Lebowsky wrote:Bassus Sanguinis wrote:My opinion on Behndys clean blends? The bass distortion /OD /fuzz with Clean blends are... the only thing they are good for is to be stacked with yet another distortion or - preferably - fuzz. Because otherwise the clean trebles come through and THAT doesn't sound too cool. Oh You cdialed the trebles off because no treblz? Well, THAT on the other hand sounds absolutely fucking horrible.
I ain't a fan of clean blends either. Will see what it sounds on the Diabolik.
Everybody seems to be shouting about the TA!FM, but I really didn't dig the sound much on the videos I found. And the footprint unfortunately is a bit big...
FWIW, I'm mostly anti-blend as well, but don't mind it on the B:assmaster because the fuzz is so grindy and cutting that the blend at anything less than 50% just brings a little fullness.
Of course, I also typically find myself using it without any blend on most of the time. But HYPOTHETICALLY I could maybe see myself using it in that context. Maybe.
Yeah, just because it has a clean blend, doesn't mean it has to be used. I'm in general a fan, but I've actually found myself using it less and less. Part of it has to do with using different amps and basses that seem to not need it as much. My favorite Muff clone on bass is the Hoof clone which of course doesn't have a blend and can be made more or less mid flat. I also really lke the Muff model on the Source Audio OFD. The threeband EQ makes it really easy to tweak and it has two modes of clean blend you can use, one where you can fuzz only certain frequencies (which you can vary) and one that acts as a more traditional blend. That said I'm using it unblended at the moment. FEA Labs Photon Fuzz was also extremly cool, still wish I had mine but I shipped it off to Russia, too bad they're not being made right now.
I really like the Hoof though, settled on it after owning a Supercollider, PPB, TFR, Musket and the Catalinbread Manx. All of them seemed to get lost with my band and I don't exactly play with the heaviest band either.
Re: Which fuzz on bass to avoid getting drowned in the mix
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:46 am
by DarkAxel
Bassist_Diver wrote:Lebowsky wrote:I love the Rat Tail don't get me wrong. It's awesome at what it does, i.e. being aggressive

I'm looking for a second fuzz in the more smooth and creamy range. A Muff really. But with mids I guess...
Earthquaker Devices Hoof fuzz, Blackout Effectors Musket, or my personal favorite that isn't going anywhere, the Fuzzhugger(fx) Bass Bloom.
then I'd go with the Musket probably

Re: Which fuzz on bass to avoid getting drowned in the mix
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:00 pm
by Lebowsky
SmallEQ wrote:Well, I'm not sure if the Diabolik is the answer then...very little smooth and creamy about it.
hmm we'll see when it arrives then... it can't be a bad pedal to have on the side anyway
Bassist_Diver wrote:A thought occurred - have you tried using a buffer?
yeah first pedals in the chain are a Boss PS-3 and then Korg tuner.
I'll definitely check out the Hoof and Musket in a second time if the Thundaa and Diabolik don't convince me. The Musket seemed a little bit too wide though

Re: Which fuzz on bass to avoid getting drowned in the mix
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:40 pm
by D.o.S.
retinal orbita wrote:bigchiefbc wrote:retinal orbita wrote:Or maybe that's just how sound guys mix bands in the Northeast.

The Northeast sounds
fucked up man... I'm from Toronto..... even two basses are a controversial thing and we have a crack addict mayor that talks on live TV about eating his wifes pussy.....
Rob Ford is hilarious.
Where's the money,What're your size requirements for the pedal, Lebowski?
Re: Which fuzz on bass to avoid getting drowned in the mix
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:01 pm
by Lebowsky
not wider than the PPB if it has side mounted jacks:

Re: Which fuzz on bass to avoid getting drowned in the mix
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:05 pm
by D.o.S.
That is... not a lot of real estate.
Re: Which fuzz on bass to avoid getting drowned in the mix
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:09 pm
by Lebowsky
yeah I didn't think I'd manage fitting them all on a PT-JR
I've done worse though:

Re: Which fuzz on bass to avoid getting drowned in the mix
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:10 pm
by Achtane
SUCH NEAT ORGANIZATION...AND THAT POWER STRIP
HNNNNGGGGGGGGGG
What are you supposed to do with that T. Rex pedal though

Re: Which fuzz on bass to avoid getting drowned in the mix
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:12 pm
by khaavren
I used to use a Musket & a Frazz for the most part.
Since I don't drop tune or anything though I enjoy the shit out of the Frazz Dazzler. Love how goddamn dirty that sizzle knob gets when cranked.

Re: Which fuzz on bass to avoid getting drowned in the mix
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:36 pm
by GardenoftheDead
Bassus Sanguinis wrote:
My opinion on Behndys clean blends? The bass distortion /OD /fuzz with Clean blends are... the only thing they are good for is to be stacked with yet another distortion or - preferably - fuzz. Because otherwise the clean trebles come through and THAT doesn't sound too cool. Oh You cdialed the trebles off because no treblz? Well, THAT on the other hand sounds absolutely fucking horrible.]
That's why you do what I do and CRANK THAT TONE KNOB.
That way you can't hear the clean treble over the clank and grind.
Re: Which fuzz on bass to avoid getting drowned in the mix
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:42 pm
by K2000
Lebowsky wrote:I love the Rat Tail don't get me wrong. It's awesome at what it does, i.e. being aggressive

I'm looking for a second fuzz in the more smooth and creamy range. A Muff really. But with mids I guess...
I think the Dwarfcraft Eu Claire Thunder is a muff style, and it has a mids boost stomp switch. Also a feedback stomp. Take a look at that one.
Re: Which fuzz on bass to avoid getting drowned in the mix
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:51 pm
by behndy
so, blends -
..... FUCK any pedal that doesn't have one. except the Durp Charger. that never blends all the way clean.
but i'm perhaps looking at shtuff a bit different. this band and the last 2 or 3 projects i've worked on, i was the only stringy player human. so i get in a spot where i'm trying REALLY HARD to cover the bass range and some of the guitar range. so i can't stand pedals that don't let some clean through.
and i really dug on the Fuck OD, but it didn't have that light od grindy thing that the B3k just killlllllllls.
I WANT A BLENDED FUCK PLEASE. MOCHA LOTTA OH LAYYYYYYY.
Re: Which fuzz on bass to avoid getting drowned in the mix
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:05 pm
by aen
K2000 wrote:Lebowsky wrote:I love the Rat Tail don't get me wrong. It's awesome at what it does, i.e. being aggressive

I'm looking for a second fuzz in the more smooth and creamy range. A Muff really. But with mids I guess...
I think the Dwarfcraft Eu Claire Thunder is a muff style, and it has a mids boost stomp switch. Also a feedback stomp. Take a look at that one.
Mostly correct... The "mids boost" is a tone stack bypass, so you do get some more mids, but you also get a fairly different tone.
I've actually been enjoying the tone stack action in that circuit in my current duo. Less need to hit the "mids pocket" when it's just drums and my guitar/bass.
Re: Which fuzz on bass to avoid getting drowned in the mix
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:42 am
by Lebowsky
Even though the Baby thundaa was great and I preferred it over the Pickle Pie B, I decided to go with the Diabolik, that thing is insane!
Re: Which fuzz on bass to avoid getting drowned in the mix
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:53 am
by D.o.S.
That's the JMJ Brassmaster, yes?