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Re: Help me design my Dunwich amplifier
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:17 pm
by AngryGoldfish
Re: Help me design my Dunwich amplifier
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:19 pm
by Greenfuz
Re: Help me design my Dunwich amplifier
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:02 am
by t-rey
AngryGoldfish wrote:I don't want to copy Carr TOOO much, ya know? Just a little.

This is the design I came up with. I'll have to see if it's possible. I'm talking with Nick now about it.
I really like this design. I especially like the noir-esque font you used.
Iommic Pope wrote:Green tolex. No other options.
Circle face, but a septagram in stead of a circle.
Nicks art neuvau DA tongue pretty cool also.
Black grillcloth and piping.
This. Green amps are best amps.
But red amps are incredibly snazzy as well.
Glad your build is here - I know how long you have waited for it!
Re: Help me design my Dunwich amplifier
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:29 am
by Ancient Astronaught
AngryGoldfish wrote:Thanks, man!
What do you think to these names for the amp:
Tryion (Half-Man)
This was recommended by a Doom Roomer friend who noticed the small but potentially cunning and powerful nature of the amp. This inspired him to think of Tryion Lanester from Game of Thrones. I dig the show and characters so I thought it apt. It's a cool name for an amp, but follows no specific theme and is only related to the diminutive demeanour of the amp and its boisterous sound qualities.
Railway15 / Railway 15 / Rail15 / Rail 15
I love travelling by train. I don't drive so use the train a lot. In the past, due to the size of my board and the weight of my amp I haven't been able to travel by train or bus when performing. This amp is inspired by this desire and necessity. I'm aiming for around 30lbs but I imagine it'll be more than that. I love the word railway. Rail is cool word in and of itself, but the fact that it means something to the amp only adds to it. The 15 is basically just the wattage of the amp. Do you think this is cheesy and chintzy? I usually abide by themes that have regular occurrences and repetitions, but some may find this stupid.
Railway15 is my vote, it fits in with the DoomTrain name wise. I'm also a big fan of transportation names, since I stare at cars and car parts all day at work.

DarkAxel wrote:Ancient Astronaught wrote: Seems manageable for one hand as long as its not like 50-60lbs.
yeah, um... my 1x12 combo is in that weight range and it's seriously tough to transport by hand... and since usually i have to, shit gets really exhausting

I also wish it had a better handle (and TNWSS, at least with me), so keep the handle in mind as well

Yeah dude 50-60lbs in one hand is no easy feet. Me and my big ass frame probably wouldn't mind too much but it definitely would get exhausting going back and forth.
And yes a good handle is KEY to any combo.
AngryGoldfish wrote:Didn't see this comment.
I'm not skinny. I have a bit of strength in me, but not enough to carry 55lbs of amp around on a train in one hand. So yeah, you're right, 50-60lbs is not manageable. Ha! 30-40lbs will be. Hopefully.
I am definitely tempted by staining. I'll have to look into it more. I considered it but never actually looked into it.
I'm aware your no small dude, but 55-60lbs even for somebody of my size is no fun to carry around one handed. A 15w amp with a neo speaker should be around the 35-40lb range, especially if your going for an el84 build. Imagine a Jet City 20 head with about 10-15lbs extra.
It is quite a classy look, and it hasn't quite taken a hold over there across the pond since most of the stained cab builders over here can't ship there. You have the chance to become a trend setter my friend.

Re: Help me design my Dunwich amplifier
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:30 am
by new05002
I should weigh TJ's amp so I can get an idea weight to some degree. That chassis was damn light I used to pick it up one handed and it was nothing. I will likely go with an aluminum chassis since its a low watt amp and does not need the strength of steel.
Re: Help me design my Dunwich amplifier
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:36 pm
by AngryGoldfish
Ancient Astronaught wrote:Railway15 is my vote, it fits in with the DoomTrain name wise. I'm also a big fan of transportation names, since I stare at cars and car parts all day at work.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Uy5DyoZDPA[/youtube]
Watch it till the end.
I think I prefer the spacing in between Railway and 15. We'll see when Nick finishes his front panel mock-up.
Ancient Astronaught wrote:I'm aware your no small dude, but 55-60lbs even for somebody of my size is no fun to carry around one handed. A 15w amp with a neo speaker should be around the 35-40lb range, especially if your going for an el84 build. Imagine a Jet City 20 head with about 10-15lbs extra.
It is quite a classy look, and it hasn't quite taken a hold over there across the pond since most of the stained cab builders over here can't ship there. You have the chance to become a trend setter my friend.

Yeah, it'll have EL84's. I already have two other EL84 amps, but they're widely different from each other, and I imagine this one will be as well. If I do buy a Carr or a Tone King Falcon to run in a mini stereo setup (not for shows), it'll have 6v6's. The end goal, though it's a long, long way off and may never happen, is to run a Carr Rambler and my Fryette Memphis in stereo for pub shows where I have transportation covered. It'll be a wet/dry setup. My other setup will be for home and split in half for shows, with the Dunwich Railway 15 and the Tone King Falcon 1x10 combo. That'll be a EL84 and 6v6 combination as well. That'll also be wet/dry setup, probably.
Re: Help me design my Dunwich amplifier
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:37 pm
by AngryGoldfish
new05002 wrote:I should weigh TJ's amp so I can get an idea weight to some degree. That chassis was damn light I used to pick it up one handed and it was nothing. I will likely go with an aluminum chassis since its a low watt amp and does not need the strength of steel.
That would be great if you could. I imagine TJ's headshell will be thicker than the wood we'll use, and seeing as Pine is our chosen construction material it'll be further lighter. Then when we add the extra dimensions for the speaker and the speaker itself, technically it shouldn't be too much of an increase, though certainly perceivable in the hand.
Re: Help me design my Dunwich amplifier
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:57 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
AngryGoldfish wrote:Ancient Astronaught wrote:Railway15 is my vote, it fits in with the DoomTrain name wise. I'm also a big fan of transportation names, since I stare at cars and car parts all day at work.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Uy5DyoZDPA[/youtube]
Watch it till the end.
I think I prefer the spacing in between Railway and 15. We'll see when Nick finishes his front panel mock-up.
Ancient Astronaught wrote:I'm aware your no small dude, but 55-60lbs even for somebody of my size is no fun to carry around one handed. A 15w amp with a neo speaker should be around the 35-40lb range, especially if your going for an el84 build. Imagine a Jet City 20 head with about 10-15lbs extra.
It is quite a classy look, and it hasn't quite taken a hold over there across the pond since most of the stained cab builders over here can't ship there. You have the chance to become a trend setter my friend.

Yeah, it'll have EL84's. I already have two other EL84 amps, but they're widely different from each other, and I imagine this one will be as well. If I do buy a Carr or a Tone King Falcon to run in a mini stereo setup (not for shows), it'll have 6v6's. The end goal, though it's a long, long way off and may never happen, is to run a Carr Rambler and my Fryette Memphis in stereo for pub shows where I have transportation covered. It'll be a wet/dry setup. My other setup will be for home and split in half for shows, with the Dunwich Railway 15 and the Tone King Falcon 1x10 combo. That'll be a EL84 and 6v6 combination as well. That'll also be wet/dry setup, probably.
Will do when I get home, my work has youtube blocked at the moment.
The spacing is pretty cool, then if you ever ordered another dunwich you could order like the Railway 200
I've had a love hate relationship with el84's, I love their midrange and clean tone, but their inherent lack of low end just doesn't jive with my tone. You know how I roll.

I like the idea of the clean / dry setup with a second amp, should yield some really nice low wattage tones.
Re: Help me design my Dunwich amplifier
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:49 pm
by AngryGoldfish
I think it depends on the circuit. My modified Jet City has enough low-end for a small amp, especially on top of a 4x12. It didn't have that much bass before it was modified. My Fryette Memphis has tons of low-end for a small 30-watt amp. It has too much sometimes as with the right guitar it can flub out. I dig that about it. It has nothing on the bigger amps I've tried and owned so I totally get what you're saying, but I love it unconditionally.

Re: Help me design my Dunwich amplifier
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:21 pm
by skullservant
I kind of want to chime in now as I know a little bit about small tube combos!!
First I want to say, go you for getting Nick to make you a combo, that rules!
Secondly, I'm personally a huge fan of stained wood, but I'd rather seen torn tolex from use and abuse than scratched wood from use and abuse, I guess that's just my own personal thing. As far as your design goes though, the whole Art Nouveau look and German Style Nouveau/ Pan Magazine typography is classy as hell.
I feel like the amp is begging for either that really lush lipstick red with the darker kind of golden brown grill cloth, or a deep deep rich stain to match the era.
I've been using a 5w Epi Valve Junior combo for the better part of 4 years now as a small at home amp/travel amp, etc. It's been really handy for apartment jam sessions, and bringing something small along when toting along a full stack is a pain. Now as far as size goes- it's 14.6" x 8.7" x 15.1" / 370mm x 220mm x 384mm which is tiny, of course because of the 8" speaker (which I've not cared for much, even after an upgrade). It's easy at that size to tote around with little effort. But juding off of the 12" speaker, along with the heavier iron in your plan, I'd say while not impossible to transport easily to and fro, might be a two hand job, which will make you have to think a little differently about toting your board around (perhaps both your guitar AND your board somehow on your back? I know Mono cases makes a padded guitar case that also has a compartment for a PT Mini for jam sessions, possibly something to look into?
In the end I think it's going to turn out great. It seems VERY well thought out, and I hope it lives up to everything you are wanting it to be!
Re: Help me design my Dunwich amplifier
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:40 pm
by AngryGoldfish
I think that however the end product comes out as regards weight, as long as it's not over 40lbs and isn't huge I think I'll manage. I can always strap my pedalboard over my back, like you say. This amp is also going to be quieter and easier to set up due to having no effects loop. We'll see how we get along. If push comes to shove and I still need something lighter and smaller, I'll still have a sick sounding fucking Dunwich!
Re: Help me design my Dunwich amplifier
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:36 pm
by ryan summit
i like that name railway15
Re: Help me design my Dunwich amplifier
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:28 pm
by Holy Schnikes
AngryGoldfish wrote:I think it depends on the circuit. My modified Jet City has enough low-end for a small amp, especially on top of a 4x12. It didn't have that much bass before it was modified. My Fryette Memphis has tons of low-end for a small 30-watt amp. It has too much sometimes as with the right guitar it can flub out. I dig that about it. It has nothing on the bigger amps I've tried and owned so I totally get what you're saying, but I love it unconditionally.

Man, I agree. Both my Dwarvenauts have SHIT TONS of low end but one is actually bass spec'd so that's to be expected I suppose. I get what Skip is saying though in that those lows aren't always translated when you're trying to push a buncha speakers (esp 15s) with a mere 15-30W. Running 'em with my 2x12s or a pair of 2x12s sounds pretty massive.
Re: Help me design my Dunwich amplifier
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:32 pm
by skullservant
This might have been covered, but are you going to have the speaker hardwired to the amp, or are you going to have it where you can plug the combo into a larger cab if you wanted to for whatever reason?
Re: Help me design my Dunwich amplifier
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:26 pm
by AxAxSxS
skullservant wrote:This might have been covered, but are you going to have the speaker hardwired to the amp, or are you going to have it where you can plug the combo into a larger cab if you wanted to for whatever reason?
Good point and I would assume that the option to have a cab hooked up is the way you are going with it.