black mess wrote:Yes, a lot of La Monte Young in there.
Ahh, you beat me to it I see. I've been hitting a lot of William Basinksi lately - Watermusic and the Tape Loop Drones are awesome.
I've never heard of him, going to check it out. Thanks for the tip.
Yeah, Basinksi is a lot more repetitive, a lot of his stuff is just loops. BUT, here's where it gets interesting - the loops were created when he was importing older minimalist work he'd done that was on tape but the tape was in such bad condition that it would deteriorate as he imported it. So with each repetition of the loop the tape is literally disintegrating so the sound breaks down in parts more and more until it gradually becomes static and white noise. All of this happens so naturally though that it can be hard to really notice until you're at the end of the loop and it's garbled soft white noise. These two are shorter but some of his loops are around the one hour mark.
Then there's also Alvin Luciere with his minimalist piece I'm Sitting in a Room. This is also more experimental as far as minimalism goes and wikipedia's summation of it illustrates it better than I could - Luciere is sitting in a room recording himself narrating a text, and then playing the recording back into the room, re-recording it. The new recording is then played back and re-recorded, and this process is repeated. Since all rooms have characteristic resonance or formant frequencies (e.g. different between a large hall and a small room), the effect is that certain frequencies are emphasized as they resonate in the room, until eventually the words become unintelligible, replaced by the pure resonant harmonies and tones of the room itself.
Those videos are really interesting, live-i-evil. Those loops sound beautiful.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:31 pm
by phantasmagorovich
live-i-evil wrote:
black mess wrote:
live-i-evil wrote:
black mess wrote:Yes, a lot of La Monte Young in there.
Ahh, you beat me to it I see. I've been hitting a lot of William Basinksi lately - Watermusic and the Tape Loop Drones are awesome.
I've never heard of him, going to check it out. Thanks for the tip.
Yes, now we're talking! I love Basinski. So soothing.
live-i-evil wrote:Then there's also Alvin Luciere with his minimalist piece I'm Sitting in a Room. This is also more experimental as far as minimalism goes and wikipedia's summation if it illustrates it better than I could - Luciere is sitting in a room recording himself narrating a text, and then playing the recording back into the room, re-recording it. The new recording is then played back and re-recorded, and this process is repeated. Since all rooms have characteristic resonance or formant frequencies (e.g. different between a large hall and a small room), the effect is that certain frequencies are emphasized as they resonate in the room, until eventually the words become unintelligible, replaced by the pure resonant harmonies and tones of the room itself.
this thread is insane. this moves like three times as fast as the hcfx doom room, and that was hard to keep up with. i'm not even going to bother trying to keep up with this. seems like most of the luminaries of the hcfx board have made it over here now, though there's a few folks left behind that i wish could get over here- humancertainty, the riffer, a few others too.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:28 pm
by Mudfuzz
misterstomach wrote:this thread is insane. this moves like three times as fast as the hcfx doom room, and that was hard to keep up with. i'm not even going to bother trying to keep up with this. seems like most of the luminaries of the hcfx board have made it over here now, though there's a few folks left behind that i wish could get over here- humancertainty, the riffer, a few others too.
Hello and welcome to the forum filled with the crazy weirdos that don't fit in on the other forms may your madness grow and topple small trailer parks
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:37 pm
by kbit
God damn it you guys, stop posting so much interesting music. SO MUCH.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:43 pm
by .homewrecker.
live-i-evil wrote:
black mess wrote:
live-i-evil wrote:
black mess wrote:Yes, a lot of La Monte Young in there.
Ahh, you beat me to it I see. I've been hitting a lot of William Basinksi lately - Watermusic and the Tape Loop Drones are awesome.
I've never heard of him, going to check it out. Thanks for the tip.
Yeah, Basinksi is a lot more repetitive, a lot of his stuff is just loops. BUT, here's where it gets interesting - the loops were created when he was importing older minimalist work he'd done that was on tape but the tape was in such bad condition that it would deteriorate as he imported it. So with each repetition of the loop the tape is literally disintegrating so the sound breaks down in parts more and more until it gradually becomes static and white noise. All of this happens so naturally though that it can be hard to really notice until you're at the end of the loop and it's garbled soft white noise. These two are shorter but some of his loops are around the one hour mark.
Then there's also Alvin Luciere with his minimalist piece I'm Sitting in a Room. This is also more experimental as far as minimalism goes and wikipedia's summation of it illustrates it better than I could - Luciere is sitting in a room recording himself narrating a text, and then playing the recording back into the room, re-recording it. The new recording is then played back and re-recorded, and this process is repeated. Since all rooms have characteristic resonance or formant frequencies (e.g. different between a large hall and a small room), the effect is that certain frequencies are emphasized as they resonate in the room, until eventually the words become unintelligible, replaced by the pure resonant harmonies and tones of the room itself.
On top of these guys be sure to check out Steve Reich and Terry Riley, what those guys do with loops these guys do with phase, some mind blowing stuff.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:14 pm
by MEC
On the minimalist side of things here's an awesome track from ILF member dlenaghen and his solo project Monophone:
The stuff in my sig is a lot heavier and more droney if that's your thing.
It's hard to keep up with everything Oren puts out but this latest piece of his is great.
Also, his collab album with Haino and O'Malley that was released last year is beyond words.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:44 pm
by misterstomach
Mudfuzz wrote:
misterstomach wrote:this thread is insane. this moves like three times as fast as the hcfx doom room, and that was hard to keep up with. i'm not even going to bother trying to keep up with this. seems like most of the luminaries of the hcfx board have made it over here now, though there's a few folks left behind that i wish could get over here- humancertainty, the riffer, a few others too.
Hello and welcome to the forum filled with the crazy weirdos that don't fit in on the other forms may your madness grow and topple small trailer parks
thanks, i like this forum a lot so far. some folks are familiar with me from hcfx, though i'm a new face over here. i love old marshalls, dogs, and metal and i dislike phasers, single coils, and most everything else. here's a link to my band, for folks here that haven't heard us.
druden.net/listen
sort of doom, but probably more black metal.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:54 pm
by pelliott
Druden is absolutely awesome. Just sayin.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:57 pm
by misterstomach
pelliott wrote:Druden is absolutely awesome. Just sayin.
thanks, dude.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:09 pm
by Mudfuzz
pelliott wrote:Druden is absolutely awesome. Just sayin.
may your madness grow and topple small trailer parks 
I like you guys