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fever606 wrote:@kbot: congrats! Did you record the set? Would love to hear it! Also, Mangrove is awesome... formant mode is life!

I didn't record it but I still have the patch set up was making notes today.
I'll likely do a studio take.

Muse FTW wrote:Plaits is a tricky thing for me. It has a lot of sweet spots but I find myself using only 3-4 modes frequently. It’s not super exciting or any kind of game changer, but I like it. I feel like it’s one of those modules which will click more once I start remembering which icons correlate to which modes

I feel the same about Plaits. I really like a few modes, but I really only use a few specific modes. Mostly because they're the modes I've learned the best. I have trouble remembering what each knob does in each mode. I'm kind of considering flipping Plaits and Rings for one or two really good oscillator voices. Definitely want to spend more time with them before I make that kind of move though

New setup:

MrNovember wrote:

Muse FTW wrote:Plaits is a tricky thing for me. It has a lot of sweet spots but I find myself using only 3-4 modes frequently. It’s not super exciting or any kind of game changer, but I like it. I feel like it’s one of those modules which will click more once I start remembering which icons correlate to which modes

I feel the same about Plaits. I really like a few modes, but I really only use a few specific modes. Mostly because they're the modes I've learned the best. I have trouble remembering what each knob does in each mode. I'm kind of considering flipping Plaits and Rings for one or two really good oscillator voices. Definitely want to spend more time with them before I make that kind of move though

I'm a little out of love with Rings. Idk what it is, but I think I've been oversaturated with ambient eurorack stuff that only uses Rings+Plonk to do string arrangement kinda stuff. I used to love that stuff, but now I'm like, eh... My only oscillators right now are Plaits, Basilimus Iteritas Alter, Manis Iteritas, Atlantis, and Mangrove. I'm looking forward to swapping in a 4ms SWN whenever that shit comes out.

Muse FTW wrote:

MrNovember wrote:

Muse FTW wrote:Plaits is a tricky thing for me. It has a lot of sweet spots but I find myself using only 3-4 modes frequently. It’s not super exciting or any kind of game changer, but I like it. I feel like it’s one of those modules which will click more once I start remembering which icons correlate to which modes

I feel the same about Plaits. I really like a few modes, but I really only use a few specific modes. Mostly because they're the modes I've learned the best. I have trouble remembering what each knob does in each mode. I'm kind of considering flipping Plaits and Rings for one or two really good oscillator voices. Definitely want to spend more time with them before I make that kind of move though

I'm a little out of love with Rings. Idk what it is, but I think I've been oversaturated with ambient eurorack stuff that only uses Rings+Plonk to do string arrangement kinda stuff. I used to love that stuff, but now I'm like, eh... My only oscillators right now are Plaits, Basilimus Iteritas Alter, Manis Iteritas, Atlantis, and Mangrove. I'm looking forward to swapping in a 4ms SWN whenever that shit comes out.

Your new setup looks awesome! I really like your selection of sound sources. I've never really paid attention to the Atlantis before, but now I'm looking at it and thinking I could rock that....I'm also kind of thinking of just putting together a setup with Mother 32/DFAM and a complimentary effects/utilities rack

Also, I'm pretty sure that's exactly where I am with Rings too. I tend to make the same kinds of sounds with it every time and they're great sounds, but they're just not really special anymore.

That's my main problem. I've made some really great sounds with Rings in the past but I don't find it as versatile unless I'm running it through a ton of effects or am sampling it. I might add Plonk back if I can find some room for it because it's much more versatile and can be straight up percussion if I want that, but for some reason I have tuning problems with it.

Atlantis is awesome. I'm a big fan of the SH-101 and this gets me there. For bass sounds it's immense. For leads it's piercing. My only complaint is that the MOD slider on mine gets way too intense too quickly, so there's only 5% usable travel on it, but I've been meaning to find out whether or not there's a pot on the back for that or something.

I REALLY like the Moog standalones but I've invested too much into this architecture, plus these cases, to try and cram those huge modules in here. I will be purchasing a Subharmonicon whenever they're available though - it sounds insane.

I also realized after planning everything that I forgot to put the Harmonaig somewhere, and it pairs really well with the Voltage Block. I'm also really happy I didn't sell the Morpheus. Shit sounds incredible with the Noise Engineering oscillators through it.

Muse FTW wrote:That's my main problem. I've made some really great sounds with Rings in the past but I don't find it as versatile unless I'm running it through a ton of effects or am sampling it. I might add Plonk back if I can find some room for it because it's much more versatile and can be straight up percussion if I want that, but for some reason I have tuning problems with it.

Atlantis is awesome. I'm a big fan of the SH-101 and this gets me there. For bass sounds it's immense. For leads it's piercing. My only complaint is that the MOD slider on mine gets way too intense too quickly, so there's only 5% usable travel on it, but I've been meaning to find out whether or not there's a pot on the back for that or something.

I REALLY like the Moog standalones but I've invested too much into this architecture, plus these cases, to try and cram those huge modules in here. I will be purchasing a Subharmonicon whenever they're available though - it sounds insane.

I also realized after planning everything that I forgot to put the Harmonaig somewhere, and it pairs really well with the Voltage Block. I'm also really happy I didn't sell the Morpheus. Shit sounds incredible with the Noise Engineering oscillators through it.

Yeah I mainly use Rings with a lot of effects at this point too. It actually does sound really great with fuzz. But yeah, I'd like something a little more versatile. I think...

You're definitely not helping with the Atlantis. Immense bass and piercing leads are definitely triggers.

So, just for fun I put together a "Moog Field Kit" and I'm not going to lie, I really, really like the "simplicity" of it. Not sure what I'd do when the Subharmonicon comes out though. I'd need Koma to release another Field Kit to keep with the aesthetics of it all:

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/665234

i still adore Rings. verrrry fun through fuzz. that's why i'm so excited the NanoRings from Michigan Sound Works ships next week. i've been using Pluck, and it's GOOD, but i love Rings.

i'm on the fence with Plaits too. don't want to sell, but want to sit down a few nights and spend hours in her.

what i don't understand is why i can get shtuff shipped to me from Detroit or Portland in 2 days, but it usually takes 3 from Cali to Cali. WHY.

The correct answer is both! Manis + BIA is so good.

I bet! In my totally hypothetical case expansion I'd definitely have one, and would consider two just cos

All of y'all bored with Rings need to try the alternate modes more.

vidret wrote:
Oh no, 3 days instead of 2?

Try 3 weeks dude

hey. HEY. my life is fraught with DIFFICULTIES OKAY. REALLY.

lol. i know. a day difference is nothing. just puzzles me that it's slower to ship in-state vs out.

well.... it SORT of matters. i'm working 5 days a week instead of 4 right now, still 10-11 hour days. and the extra money is USEFUL (holy BUTTS it's a change going from 8 hundy to 23 for rent), but it really makes me value my free time even more. so if something hits Saturday/Sunday so i get a couple days off with it?

JUICY. LIKE AN OVER-RIPE MANGO.

Alright, I gotta put on my grandpa hat here for a second....

If you have an oscillator like Plaits that has over 15 modes, how reasonable is it to expect that you will use all of those modes often and in equal amounts? Is that necessary criteria for a multimode oscillator to be in your system, and if so, why?

I could be reading your comments wrong but if I had Plaits and I used my 3-4 core modes often and was happy with their uses, I'd feel pretty good about that. Then there could be a whole other world of sound in my system that I can discover at some point the future.

behndy wrote:what i don't understand is why i can get shtuff shipped to me from Detroit or Portland in 2 days, but it usually takes 3 from Cali to Cali. WHY.

Your state has a lot of prisons. All that inmate mail really slogs things up.

The stuff you get from out of state likely goes straight from the airport to your nearest office without further interference.

kbit wrote:Alright, I gotta put on my grandpa hat here for a second....

If you have an oscillator like Plaits that has over 15 modes, how reasonable is it to expect that you will use all of those modes often and in equal amounts? Is that necessary criteria for a multimode oscillator to be in your system, and if so, why?

I could be reading your comments wrong but if I had Plaits and I used my 3-4 core modes often and was happy with their uses, I'd feel pretty good about that. Then there could be a whole other world of sound in my system that I can discover at some point the future.

Oh it's definitely not reasonable to expect to use all modes in equal amounts. But for some reason, I'm not happy until I have a solid understanding of each mode. I had the same issue with Peaks and with Disting. Don't really have that issue with O_c for some reason. I really just need to ignore all the other modes in Plaits and focus on the few core ones I really like

yah. i'm not mad at the spoilt for choice aspect, and i have a ton of gear that mebbe does 10 things well but 2 of them TICKLE me and that is plennnnnnty to make me happy. i'm not sure why i feel meh towards Plaits was why i brought it up?

Prison Heavy Cali Life - huh. i never thought of that. INTERESSSSSTINNNNNG