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AngryGoldfish wrote:I do actually care about 'the cool'. Not to get all philosophical about Strats and Doom, but there is definitely something to be said on being inspired by your instruments. If you subconsciously like to 'fit in' then a Gibson Les Paul or an SG is where you'll naturally curve towards, with maybe a Marshall JCM800. If you've relished in the Grungier side of music then you might gravitate towards a pale blue Telecaster and an Ampeg V4. And if you're naturally a little more flamboyant than your band mates then you might just pick up a white Flying V baritone and run a stack of Verellen. It's all very serious, but the conscious mind isn't always in control when choosing, buying and even playing gear. Sometimes you have to go with your gut. Our personality does play a part in what we use as musicians. I don't mean to be saying this like it's new to you, but it's an interesting topic.

What do your gear purchases say about you?

Wisdom^^^

Guitar player from Witch Mountain uses a Lace loaded Strat in C and it sounds pretty damn rad if you ask me.

It all depends on you...I personally play a super strat and have for...hmm...about 10 years now, and while I love the versatility and tone it's just a bit superfluous for what I am doing nowadays in regards to the actual design...I get tone that is very pleasing to myself with it...but i'd like something without a trem of any sort, a bit thicker neck(hands ended up growing out of the thin neck about a year after purchasing) and possibly walnut/maple hybrid instead of alder/mahogany. I think really you should only worry about upgrading to something else for practical reasons (ie: too heavy? lighter. too bright? thicker) and not worry at all about fitting in...but as AG pointed out for some people, fitting in is a practical reason so if that applies to you go with something else.

My philosophy though is that no matter what you have...just go for it and remember that no matter what you are using as long as it sounds good people aren't going to be worrying about the grade or type of equipment you are using. It's also fun to see your equipment evolve over time...I have documentation of my rig going from 120w Randall 1x12 combo -> Randall Combo + Randall 4x12 -> Krank Rev+ + Randall 4x12 -> currently Verellen + Randall 4x12 and will just continue to add.

Was talking to the wood wizard about a possible custom build the other day and I might just make a down payment soon. Trying to do a baritone Guild S300 esque build ala walnut/maple as mentioned above...because at this point I am one of those "flamboyant(although i'd just say particular)" dudes that know what I like and don't like and want to make sure my next big purchase in the wood realm is exactly up to my current assessment of what I need from a guitar...I really just want to create my own unique tone that will not easily be ripped off and will be impossible for others to 100% copycat my rig piece for piece.

D.o.S. wrote:Thou slays live.

They are quite easily in my list of Top 5 bands live.

nightterrors wrote:THOU are cool... seen em' play in a bakery haha.
another band that uses fairly generic things and sounds good live.

Haha that's what rules about them...unsuspecting people, unsuspecting gear, unsuspected venues all make the experience worth it every time. In order of chronology i've seen Thou at: a house, a Mountain and a Warehouse.

nightterrors wrote:I personally get comments quite frequently that both of my amps are guitar amps... which technically speaking, they are.
It bothers me when people don't want to try things that aren't supposed to "work" or go together (I don't mean with all things...)

Sure, I'm probably going to end up with a 70's SVT because they ARE the king of bass amps... but I thought I'd try what people tell me not to do. Why not?

Right now, I feel like I've been pushing my own limits. Ever since I quit 2 bands I was in late 2011... I sold everything I had gear-wise and started fresh because I felt like both bands were holding me back and I wanted to do MORE and experiment MORE with amps,guitars,basses,pedals,cabs and even musically.
Hell, I am still not satisfied musically, I want to experiment even more.

I didn't mean what I said to you offensively, sorry about that. I just think it's pretty dumb that people won't try something out (like a strat for example) in a Doom band because it's "not cool" looking. You know? I bet you can get that thing to sound wicked, I had a Jag and a Mustang before and they both sounded real cool in a heavy guitar setting with the right adjustments.

Oh no, I didn't take it offensively. I was literally just being conversational. No worries at all, mate.

You have some seriously sick gear, but I initially thought you were a guitarist. There are an equal amounts of bassists and guitarists here all using the same gear, so it didn't come as much surprise. That wasn't ignorance on my part or anything like that, it was just the commonalities of life.

It can be silly when someone doesn't choose a great piece of gear because of all that it attached to it, but I guess all I was saying was, it's OK to be that way. It's all good in the end.

ridingeternity wrote:

AngryGoldfish wrote:I do actually care about 'the cool'. Not to get all philosophical about Strats and Doom, but there is definitely something to be said on being inspired by your instruments. If you subconsciously like to 'fit in' then a Gibson Les Paul or an SG is where you'll naturally curve towards, with maybe a Marshall JCM800. If you've relished in the Grungier side of music then you might gravitate towards a pale blue Telecaster and an Ampeg V4. And if you're naturally a little more flamboyant than your band mates then you might just pick up a white Flying V baritone and run a stack of Verellen. It's all very serious, but the conscious mind isn't always in control when choosing, buying and even playing gear. Sometimes you have to go with your gut. Our personality does play a part in what we use as musicians. I don't mean to be saying this like it's new to you, but it's an interesting topic.

What do your gear purchases say about you?

Wisdom^^^

Guitar player from Witch Mountain uses a Lace loaded Strat in C and it sounds pretty damn rad if you ask me.

It all depends on you...I personally play a super strat and have for...hmm...about 10 years now, and while I love the versatility and tone it's just a bit superfluous for what I am doing nowadays in regards to the actual design...I get tone that is very pleasing to myself with it...but i'd like something without a trem of any sort, a bit thicker neck(hands ended up growing out of the thin neck about a year after purchasing) and possibly walnut/maple hybrid instead of alder/mahogany. I think really you should only worry about upgrading to something else for practical reasons (ie: too heavy? lighter. too bright? thicker) and not worry at all about fitting in...but as AG pointed out for some people, fitting in is a practical reason so if that applies to you go with something else.

My philosophy though is that no matter what you have...just go for it and remember that no matter what you are using as long as it sounds good people aren't going to be worrying about the grade or type of equipment you are using. It's also fun to see your equipment evolve over time...I have documentation of my rig going from 120w Randall 1x12 combo -> Randall Combo + Randall 4x12 -> Krank Rev+ + Randall 4x12 -> currently Verellen + Randall 4x12 and will just continue to add.

Was talking to the wood wizard about a possible custom build the other day and I might just make a down payment soon. Trying to do a baritone Guild S300 esque build ala walnut/maple as mentioned above...because at this point I am one of those "flamboyant(although i'd just say particular)" dudes that know what I like and don't like and want to make sure my next big purchase in the wood realm is exactly up to my current assessment of what I need from a guitar...I really just want to create my own unique tone that will not easily be ripped off and will be impossible for others to 100% copycat my rig piece for piece.

I noticed you playing what looked like an ESP or Schecter—some Super-Strat anyway—in the video you posted of the Verellen.

And I'm the same as you. I like a little flavour and pretty much know what I want and am willing to wait for it.

I couldn't sell my Strat because Stratocasters aren't "in" at the moment.

I used to play a very homely guitar...plank of wood that I was comfortable with that played well. Kind of fit my ability and style.

I replaced it with a very shiny guitar that makes me feel like a boss, but I still suck.

Funny how that works.

Ancient Astronaught wrote:OT: I'm thinking of changing my forum name to "Ancient Hashtronaught" whatchu guys think?

Dude, can I steal that for a band name?

AngryGoldfish wrote:I noticed you playing what looked like an ESP or Schecter—some Super-Strat anyway—in the video you posted of the Verellen.

And I'm the same as you. I like a little flavour and pretty much know what I want and am willing to wait for it.

Yeah that's a Caparison TAT, Jap made by the original owners of Jackson after the Fender buyout...another qualm I have with it is its a bit small for my larger frame, definitely could use a bit more surface area for a bit more control...qualms aside though im still hoping I can somehow hang onto it...as someone mentioned earlier super strats are so versatile and as far as im concerned Caparison makes some of the best ones available(26.5 scale standard )

ridingeternity wrote:

D.o.S. wrote:Thou slays live.

They are quite easily in my list of Top 5 bands live.

nightterrors wrote:THOU are cool... seen em' play in a bakery haha.
another band that uses fairly generic things and sounds good live.

Haha that's what rules about them...unsuspecting people, unsuspecting gear, unsuspected venues all make the experience worth it every time. In order of chronology i've seen Thou at: a house, a Mountain and a Warehouse.

I saw Thou in the middle of the woods with WITTR and Falls of Rauros. One of the best shows I've ever been too, and how I got introduced to Thou, actually.

D.o.S. wrote:The stage:



View from the stage:


Looking at the stage:


Shit was rad, more photo's here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/floodovcan ... 522920501/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/taylorlcoo ... 7645942934

Also all this "gear is what makes you feel cool" nonsense is what's been driving up the prices of all the off-the-road tube heads for the last seven or eight years. And I don't like that.

D.o.S. wrote:

ridingeternity wrote:

D.o.S. wrote:Thou slays live.

They are quite easily in my list of Top 5 bands live.

nightterrors wrote:THOU are cool... seen em' play in a bakery haha.
another band that uses fairly generic things and sounds good live.

Haha that's what rules about them...unsuspecting people, unsuspecting gear, unsuspected venues all make the experience worth it every time. In order of chronology i've seen Thou at: a house, a Mountain and a Warehouse.

I saw Thou in the middle of the woods with WITTR and Falls of Rauros. One of the best shows I've ever been too, and how I got introduced to Thou, actually.

D.o.S. wrote:The stage:



View from the stage:


Looking at the stage:


Shit was rad, more photo's here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/floodovcan ... 522920501/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/taylorlcoo ... 7645942934

ha! i was at that show. i used to work for wittr and i was on that tour. that show was awesome in so many ways and such a complete nightmare in some other ways.

Small world dude, my friend booked it.

I would agree with the general assessment of awesome/nightmare ratio. Luckily I was there as a fan, so I didn't have to do anything except try and keep the super wasted from destroying anything important on the property.

LOCOPELAND wrote:Just hit this guy up with a trade offer for this:

http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/msg/3710365640.html

Looks like a pretty cool project. If he takes my trade bait, that'd be even cooler.

looks amazing, hope you get that thing. love those sorts of intruments, especially basses.

WeHuntKings wrote:Is it lame if I play doom on my strat with lace sensors? I wanna start a doom/stoner metal thing.

I usually tune to C or drop Bb

AngryGoldfish wrote:I do actually care about 'the cool'. Not to get all philosophical about Strats and Doom, but there is definitely something to be said on being inspired by your instruments. If you subconsciously like to 'fit in' then a Gibson Les Paul or an SG is where you'll naturally curve towards, with maybe a Marshall JCM800. If you've relished in the Grungier side of music then you might gravitate towards a pale blue Telecaster and an Ampeg V4. And if you're naturally a little more flamboyant than your band mates then you might just pick up a white Flying V baritone and run a stack of Verellen. It's all very serious, but the conscious mind isn't always in control when choosing, buying and even playing gear. Sometimes you have to go with your gut. Our personality does play a part in what we use as musicians. I don't mean to be saying this like it's new to you, but it's an interesting topic.

What do your gear purchases say about you?

My opinion on that sort of issue is make the best of what you have to work with.

Most people play through something and then they get new gear or switch gear and they expect it to sound the same, but it doesn't quite work that way at all. Some gear is better for a certain kind of sound, some gear is better for another kind of sound, that's just how the game is played.

A much better approach to it, in my humble opinion, is that you have to make the gear excel within what you do, you're the one who has to make it sound good and write music with it, because gear has an inherent sort of tone in your hands, of course, but the most important part is you using it for the correct application within your music. A strat may not sound good if you're expecting it to sound great in a song you wrote using an LP, but you can always write different stuff with it.

I could definitely play some fucked up drone shit with a strat, but i'd use it for an application which would sound great with it within that area. It's all about perspective.

deathmonkey wrote:
http://www.facebook.com/ALLISONNEWBOLDPHOTOGRAPHY<-I love the shots she got.

F Yeah for full rig pics in cramped Basements.
I eat microphones.

That's a rad pic!

misterstomach wrote:question, probably for nick: last night i tried out a v4. it's been looked at by a competent tech. i actually got it from my tech's shop. he's done some work on it and is trying to help the owner sell it. he let me take it to practice to try it out. it was awesome. sounded really really good and was loud as shit. we played for an hourish, maybe a little less, then took a few minute break (i'm in a band with smokers). when we came back in and i walked up to the amp, i noticed that somewhat distinct smell of really hot electrical things. i played for a second. amp still sounded great, but when i put my hand on the faceplate, i noticed it was really hot, mostly over on the side with the power switches. seemed unusual, so i turned it off and switched to my jmp which i just got back from getting a retube and a couple of other odds and ends.

so what's up with that heat? seems like i shouldn't buy this one, right? that's not normal for a v4, right? what could it be? i guess it could be a lot of things, but it was weird and i stopped using it 'cause i really don't want to blow up an amp that's not mine.

Both of my Ampeg VT-40s(V2 in combo form) do this when I play them. It smells like hot eletrical things and they get warm as all hell but I've never had a problem with either. Freaked my out the first few times I cranked them though.

ridingeternity wrote:NEW BAND ALERT: Bryan(vox) and Andy(guitar) from sludge lords THOU have started a new hardcore band...so fuckin' kvlt there aren't even recordings yet and they are booking their first tour.

This sounds awesome.


What's also awesome is the Iron Pile clip NIck put up in the Dunwich shark tank, can't wait for that thing to get to me house.

live-i-evil wrote:

misterstomach wrote:question, probably for nick: last night i tried out a v4. it's been looked at by a competent tech. i actually got it from my tech's shop. he's done some work on it and is trying to help the owner sell it. he let me take it to practice to try it out. it was awesome. sounded really really good and was loud as shit. we played for an hourish, maybe a little less, then took a few minute break (i'm in a band with smokers). when we came back in and i walked up to the amp, i noticed that somewhat distinct smell of really hot electrical things. i played for a second. amp still sounded great, but when i put my hand on the faceplate, i noticed it was really hot, mostly over on the side with the power switches. seemed unusual, so i turned it off and switched to my jmp which i just got back from getting a retube and a couple of other odds and ends.

so what's up with that heat? seems like i shouldn't buy this one, right? that's not normal for a v4, right? what could it be? i guess it could be a lot of things, but it was weird and i stopped using it 'cause i really don't want to blow up an amp that's not mine.

Both of my Ampeg VT-40s(V2 in combo form) do this when I play them. It smells like hot eletrical things and they get warm as all hell but I've never had a problem with either. Freaked my out the first few times I cranked them though.

that's good to know. maybe i shouldn't be so worried.

i must say, playing the jmp with new tubes after 6 months or more out of commission was like falling in love all over again. that amp is amazing.

did i mention that we're coming to your area? may 1st and second. the 1st is probably a day off and the 2nd we're playing in santa barabara. two of my bandmates are from santa barbara, so we'll probably head down there for the day off. you should come to the show if you can make it and we should have some beers. i don't actually know how far santa barbara is from you, it's all the same place down there to me. but if it's close it'd be good to hang out again.

Wow - 417 pages in this thread in 3 months. Color me impressed bitches!

PS - Whiskey Bottles work for Doom Slides too.