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warwick.hoy wrote:So what do we think of the LS-2?

Seriously sober talk....

BEST PEDAL EVAR!!!!

MSUsousaphone wrote:The thing I dislike about TB is how there's manufacurers posting there, so a lot of times you can't post your true thoughts on something. Fact: MicroThumpinator and B3K are GROSSLY overpriced, for what they do. Just sayin.

warwick.hoy wrote:Yeah,...I'd say that there are better blends out there,...but still,...it's got some uses if you dig in and experiment.

No offense but I tried blending but I wasn't into it. Something like Tiga's Xblender I'd be willing to try out before I made a definitive opinion.

MSUsousaphone wrote:Fact: MicroThumpinator and B3K are GROSSLY overpriced, for what they do. Just sayin.

MSUsousaphone wrote:The thing I dislike about TB is how there's manufacurers posting there, so a lot of times you can't post your true thoughts on something. Fact: MicroThumpinator and B3K are GROSSLY overpriced, for what they do. Just sayin.

behndy wrote:hurm. i'm going to have to diagram it out 'cause it keeps stumbling over itself in my head, but is there a way with a two spot bypass looper to nest a loop?

like loop 1 = pedal a, pedal b, loop 2 that has pedals c, d and e, back in loop 1 pedal f.

so if loops 1's on and loop 2's off it would go a -> b -> f, and then if you click on loop 2 if would go a -> b -> c -> d -> e -> f? i know if you could nest like that then 1 would have to be on for 2 to do anything.... but can you set up basic bypass loopers like that?

Early Morning Durpy Question is DURPY.

SmallEQ wrote:....so as long as the people behind the brands seem to be good peeps, there isn't much reason to straight out bash any brands.

SmallEQ wrote:

MSUsousaphone wrote:The thing I dislike about TB is how there's manufacurers posting there, so a lot of times you can't post your true thoughts on something. Fact: MicroThumpinator and B3K are GROSSLY overpriced, for what they do. Just sayin.

Wouldn't stop me, but then again I wouldn't feel the need to overly bash any companies' products with the exception of somebody with shitty business ethics/practices. For instance, I really like Taylor and love the Xero and Polytope I have from him, but I'm not afraid to tell anybody that I don't like the Oxide very much. I get why people would like it, just like I get why people like the B3k (The clips I've heard do nothing for me, but Behndy likes it so there must be something redeeming to it ), so as long as the people behind the brands seem to be good peeps, there isn't much reason to straight out bash any brands.

What's really hard is working in the industry and seeing some of the misinformation out there but not wanting to get involved trying to correct the stupid shit I read.

Also, as far as the pricing of something like the B3K goes...working for a Danish company like I do and spending some time in Scandanavia now, I can tell you that besides the exchange rate issue, shit is just really expensive there. Anybody who is going to manufacture something in Finland, Sweden, Norway or Denmark are at a huge competitive disadvantage. Taxes are insane, your simple fast food meal is at least twice as expensive as it is in the US. My colleagues in Denmark told me the average Danish person only goes out to dinner once a month.

Then again, they get free healthcare, education (either trade or university) and generous unemployment benefits among other things. Not going to get into what is good vs bad about this kind of thing, but you can see how it would make things like manufacturing pedals there seemingly more difficult.

MSUsousaphone wrote:

SmallEQ wrote:

MSUsousaphone wrote:The thing I dislike about TB is how there's manufacurers posting there, so a lot of times you can't post your true thoughts on something. Fact: MicroThumpinator and B3K are GROSSLY overpriced, for what they do. Just sayin.

Wouldn't stop me, but then again I wouldn't feel the need to overly bash any companies' products with the exception of somebody with shitty business ethics/practices. For instance, I really like Taylor and love the Xero and Polytope I have from him, but I'm not afraid to tell anybody that I don't like the Oxide very much. I get why people would like it, just like I get why people like the B3k (The clips I've heard do nothing for me, but Behndy likes it so there must be something redeeming to it ), so as long as the people behind the brands seem to be good peeps, there isn't much reason to straight out bash any brands.

What's really hard is working in the industry and seeing some of the misinformation out there but not wanting to get involved trying to correct the stupid shit I read.

Also, as far as the pricing of something like the B3K goes...working for a Danish company like I do and spending some time in Scandanavia now, I can tell you that besides the exchange rate issue, shit is just really expensive there. Anybody who is going to manufacture something in Finland, Sweden, Norway or Denmark are at a huge competitive disadvantage. Taxes are insane, your simple fast food meal is at least twice as expensive as it is in the US. My colleagues in Denmark told me the average Danish person only goes out to dinner once a month.

Then again, they get free healthcare, education (either trade or university) and generous unemployment benefits among other things. Not going to get into what is good vs bad about this kind of thing, but you can see how it would make things like manufacturing pedals there seemingly more difficult.

Yeah...I love the Polytope. The Xero D was cool but I just found it WAY too hard to dial in. It was like, 90% of the settings didn't do anything...that 10% that did stuff was awesome but it was hard to get right to the exact setting it needed to be....and that setting you wanted never seemed to be in the same spot every time I tried to find it.....the Oxide is cool, but like you said, it's just not my sound. Reverb isn't my thing.

BUT. The IE stuff is at a great price. Like ss/bs stuff. Is there really something about the B3K that makes it over $100 more than a TA!FM? Fuck no. It's basically a slightly darker Elements with a lot less versatility. It should be right at the price of the Elements.

AND THE FUCKING MICROTHUMPINATOR!!!! It's a motherfucking volume/frequency cut. That's it. That is all that fucking thing is. A fucking cut pedal. Holy fucking shit. $180 for a fucking volume/freq cut. What. The. Fuck.

And the stupidest shit....I bought it. I had it once. I drank the fucking kool-aid and bought it. Thank God someone bought it from me at a very high price. Don't get me wrong, I believe in the pedal. Building these fEARful cabs, I kinda want one to protect them from the subsonic monster. I would totally go for one if it were $50....like it's worth.

Fuck that shit.