Shitty drum machines?

[$harkToootth]

Whoa yes, Charlie Foxtrot... Possessed... very important. I'm the goof now!
This is not cheap... but should have been my first answer.
1. Geiger Counter -> Just do it. They sell under $200 now.
2. Geiger Counter Pro -> WMD just knows how to make pedals. Another feature rich "logical conclusion" pedal. Two assignable CV inputs. A hand low pass filter (non resonant) at the end of the chain. I'm currently separated from mine :sadface: but ESSENTIAL for my TR-707. I also have other shitty drum machines and the GCP makes them a completely different instrument.

I'm in charge today. Rhythmic Noise Core
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[Dandolin]

$ound$ $weet $harky

how has it come to be the the Geiger Counter is so under the radar? Lots of bit crusher/SRR discussion on here of late with nary a mention....

OG was pricy at the time, but yer right is right cheep these days - even if you don't want to get caught up in all the wave tables (why? i ask, why?) it's still a damn fine BC/SRR with dirt and tone control and expression. The Pro is a beast and worth every penny
esp. for drum mangling duty

[$harkToootth]

You can find deals on the pro too. It has a lot to offer including its own app to edit (wow $hark, you're amazed by that in 2020... go back to 2016). And agreed to all. your sentiments. I just consulted the analysts at Reverb.com. It's averaging around $100 off retail (I got mine for that brand new... good deals) and has dipped into the $250 territory.

That said Uncle Connie AKA Inconuucl probably has a litany of apps to mangle the drums.

[$harkToootth]

Oh... anything RMA. Was that said already?
I also used to use my Seppuku stuff with individual outs of the TR0707 and would have a dissociative disco party.

[Dandolin]

we could fit "Dissociative" in there up top...eh? eh????

[$harkToootth]

Dissociative Disco -> "I am who I am until I catch myself then, I also am but I am"

[Dandolin]

actually, that could be a tasty mantra

[crochambeau]

Oh... anything RMA. Was that said already?

Aha! No, you're the first to mention RMA on this thread, I've just been posting pics of old drum machines. I can't bring myself to say "hey, you could use THIS, but you've got to wait if you actually want to buy one", so self promotion waits until I get caught up (improving a bit on that front). I do love seeing praise in print though, so thank you!

Regarding erosive processing for drum machines, I really like a mixer I built that uses a discrete opamp stage I assembled incorrectly (I believe beer was involved, and it was a social gathering climate, so it's a wonder the fucking thing works at all). I should blueprint that mistake and recreate it with intent.

Another type of thing I love feeding a drum machine is old (tubed) laboratory decade amplifiers, voltmeters (with record/measure outputs), and oscilloscopes (via the vertical output port). The ones I've used have produced a similar class of distortion (what you may expect to hear by feeding a volt of signal into gain set up for mV or nV). Not unlike some of the fine tracks you posted above. Mmmmmhmmm, noisy.

In the meantime, here's another drum machine.

[$harkToootth]

Aha! No, you're the first to mention RMA on this thread, I've just been posting pics of old drum machines. I can't bring myself to say "hey, you could use THIS, but you've got to wait if you actually want to buy one", so self promotion waits until I get caught up (improving a bit on that front). I do love seeing praise in print though, so thank you!

No. Thank you! Literally... anything. For (Imo) something tamer, people should reference your mudlark videos. IMO, those are the "friendliest" of your machines.

Regarding erosive processing for drum machines, I really like a mixer I built that uses a discrete opamp stage I assembled incorrectly (I believe beer was involved, and it was a social gathering climate, so it's a wonder the fucking thing works at all). I should blueprint that mistake and recreate it with intent.

Yes, if you reverse engineer that and put it out... I would guess there is at least 5 people here who would be interested in an RMA mixer. If it's a smaller one. You tell me though?

Another type of thing I love feeding a drum machine is old (tubed) laboratory decade amplifiers, voltmeters (with record/measure outputs), and oscilloscopes (via the vertical output port). The ones I've used have produced a similar class of distortion (what you may expect to hear by feeding a volt of signal into gain set up for mV or nV). Not unlike some of the fine tracks you posted above. Mmmmmhmmm, noisy.

In the meantime, here's another drum machine.

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1. Can you elaborate on this? I'm a dumb ass and not following how you're feeding the drum machine? Promising concept though!
2. What in the fuck is that?

[crochambeau]

Aha! No, you're the first to mention RMA on this thread, I've just been posting pics of old drum machines. I can't bring myself to say "hey, you could use THIS, but you've got to wait if you actually want to buy one", so self promotion waits until I get caught up (improving a bit on that front). I do love seeing praise in print though, so thank you!

No. Thank you! Literally... anything. For (Imo) something tamer, people should reference your mudlark videos. IMO, those are the "friendliest" of your machines.

Disagree. The Tetanus Booster is the friendliest of the bunch. Early Mudlarks are fairly tame, but the current version is... an acquired taste.

Regarding erosive processing for drum machines, I really like a mixer I built that uses a discrete opamp stage I assembled incorrectly (I believe beer was involved, and it was a social gathering climate, so it's a wonder the fucking thing works at all). I should blueprint that mistake and recreate it with intent.

Yes, if you reverse engineer that and put it out... I would guess there is at least 5 people here who would be interested in an RMA mixer. If it's a smaller one. You tell me though?

I have some stuff in the works that is mixing related, but I am, in no uncertain terms, not getting into the mixer market as long as I am still building everything myself by hand. I would just recreate the faulty discrete opamp stage (two of which were the final output of the mixer), package that in a unity gain enclosure with a bypass switch and call it a day... unless I fall down a rabbit hole, which happens, a lot.

Anything actually mixer related (once I work the bugs out of the circuits for my own use) will probably be offered in kit form.

Another type of thing I love feeding a drum machine is old (tubed) laboratory decade amplifiers, voltmeters (with record/measure outputs), and oscilloscopes (via the vertical output port). The ones I've used have produced a similar class of distortion (what you may expect to hear by feeding a volt of signal into gain set up for mV or nV). Not unlike some of the fine tracks you posted above. Mmmmmhmmm, noisy.

1. Can you elaborate on this? I'm a dumb ass and not following how you're feeding the drum machine?

This is a Ballantine 320 voltmeter:

Input (via banana) is straight forward, the "MONITOR OUTPUT" 1/4" phone jack on the face is natively wired as a post gain feedthrough. The gain switch is more or less unity at 3.2 volt section, and dialing that counter clockwise increases gain in 10 dB steps. I find the blast furnace that occurs at 50 or 60 dB gain is usually sufficient, as nearer the 80 dB setting has what could be described as a really pronounced noise floor. I have one unit I need to service (making a pair), so it may be possible that I can exploit the higher gain regions more fruitfully with a freshened up device, but seriously, mid range on the scale is enough.

So, that's just a fuzz box for all intents and purposes.

These are early lab (pre)amps, the TIC 500AR:

Similar story to above, but without the VU measuring function. They also register gain in a more conventional "clockwise is UP" layout, but list it as voltage gain, not the dB (20, 40, 60) audio is used to.

Finally, the oscilloscope is basically just another wide band amplifier feeding sophisticated other stages that don't come into play where root distortion/fuzz is involved. Here's a shot of a Tektronix 545A with dual trace input (side note, those two input gain stages CAN be set to switch back and forth at the rate of horizontal sweep - which itself can be trigger via an external pulse signal). Again, gobs of gain on tap, and the vertical output (arrowed) can be exploited as a post gain signal tap. More recent machines (like my Tektronix 7633 from the 1970s) have the vertical output on the back. And I guess I should mention that the scope that gets used as an actual scope (Tektronix TDS460A) does NOT have this function built in at all, so apparently the need died out at some point or was not overly commonplace - but it's COOL.

2. What in the fuck is that?

Sakata DPM-48 (they became Hammonds later, for a moment or two). A pre-MIDI digital sample drum machine that only syncs via DIN sync (ala TR-606 or Korg KPR-77). It has a goofy connector that I hope takes trigger data so I can avoid fussing about with it as an actual drum machine, which is a shitty experience let me tell you. I want to say the sounds are underwhelming as well, but it's been a while since I've run it through the courses.

Also, what's this about mid 90s Eugene Oregon as your location? If you can deliver a message to an earlier me in that timeline that would be rad..

[$harkToootth]

Eugene, OR in the late 90s isn't so much a place but a state of mind. I think you can streamline the space/time continuum and deliver the message to yourself... in the here and now, my friend.

[coldbrightsunlight]

We're gonna need a bigger baggie

[$harkToootth]

There's a little bit of "Eugene, OR in the late 90s" in all of us. The message was inside you all along.

[fcknoise]

1. Geiger Counter -> Just do it. They sell under $200 now.
2. Geiger Counter Pro -> WMD just knows how to make pedals. Another feature rich "logical conclusion" pedal. Two assignable CV inputs. A hand low pass filter (non resonant) at the end of the chain. I'm currently separated from mine :sadface: but ESSENTIAL for my TR-707. I also have other shitty drum machines and the GCP makes them a completely different instrument.

This, these are so good. They suck to use because they literally have 250 or so wavetables that all sound different and they are impossible to remember which ones are good. I I'd switch up and down between like 3 different ones and then do a biiiiig scroll somewhere else and play a bit over there. But essentially this isnt a problem, because it all sounds good and there really is not distortion quite like it.

I def want/need a second one

[codetocontra]

but ESSENTIAL for my TR-707. I also have other shitty drum machines and the GCP makes them a completely different instrument.

Forgot you had a TR-707. Semi-shitty, but very cool. Prices have gone up. Waiting for Roland to rollout a Boutique series version. Would grab. Loved my old 707 for a brief moment in time.

And yes, bit crushers on drum machines are rad AF. Best case use of the Ottobit Jr for me in the past. Geiger Counter Pro though, hmmm. Only played Jwars on guitar once and thought it was pretty rad.