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Jwar wrote:This thread is ridiculous. If a name offends you, go back to grade school and learn how to not allow stupid shit to offend you. Being offended is a choice. You don’t like a builder? Don’t buy! Easy? Done! Want to fight injustice in the world? Get out from behind your fucking keyboard and actually do something instead of bitch and moan that a pedal shouldn’t have the word pussy on it. Who fucking cares and why do you care? The atrocities of this world are so much greater than this mundane bullshit.

VREEEEVROOOOOW wrote:

Blackened Soul wrote:Wait a sec here... not to offend... ok to offend... none of you have japananoise 45s in your record collection with super fucked up names/song names/artwork? really? WTF? 'm not saying I condone or agree but.. for the genre of art that MASF are part of that isn't a abnormality...

I think those are dumb too. But the difference is that I certainly don't have 45s like that *on stage when I'm performing*. There's a difference between listening to a 45 with fucked up song titles in private, and being on stage playing a "Pussy Melter" or whatever at a show with impressionable 16 year boys who think that's cool, or whatever. Of course, you could just give it a paint job or whatever. But like UglyCasanova said—the names are still bad ideas.

Blackened Soul wrote:most of them.

kaeth wrote:

Olin wrote:the "rape" that can be involved with raptio is not the same sexually violating rape that we use today

This type of pedantry is really where you want to take the discussion? That the plundering kind of rape is not sexually violating? And that makes it fine?

Olin wrote:he could have chosen to A) not care and continue to use the name because he liked the sound of the word and how it fit in with his producr and acknowledged that words can have more than one meaning or B) apparently committed to his hatred of women by naming his pedal maliciously and normalising rape culture via boutique effects pedals in Japan.

It was likely A. No one has disputed that. In fact, it's the same thing I just said. No one said he hates women. You're the one who keeps escalating. Good intentions don't launder the effects of problematic behaviour. Rape culture is not the product of malicious woman-hating, and yet, it exists. The reason for discussing it is just to advocate for a position that throwing rape around indiscriminately should not have some sort of absolute protection from criticism. My goal is really only to talk about it, so that the next time someone googles "raptio" they might find this thread, and be presented with dissenting views that may lead them to reconsider. Your goal seems to be to shut down all criticism, instead of just letting people read it and decide for themselves.

Olin wrote:calling people trolls for disagreeing with you is pretty fuckin' rude, there's no need for that.

I was saying that a pedal manufacturer that used a tasteless name and then hid behind "intention" would be trolling - and even that was hypothetical. I didn't realize that the word "troll" was so much more upsetting than rape. I'm sorry. My intent wasn't to offend so harshly, but I'll reconsider my behaviour if it's that problematic. It's the least I could do, really.

Olin wrote:In the last paragraph your sarcasm has lost me completely. I'm more than happy to talk to anyone here about anything, but only if we're talking as equals and with some respect. Seeing as you want to be snarky and patronising in response to my post I really don't have any desire to argue with someone so petulant, and think it's a shame it had to devolve to that.

K2000 wrote: MASF also has the Kidnapper so maybe Raptio is part of a kidnapping theme.

Pete wrote:Yikes, I had no idea of the meaning of the word “raptio”. That’s baaaaad. How long has that pedal been in production? Seems wild that we’re just now learning of the name, considering how popular that pedal is.