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Re: Raising vegetarian children
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:38 pm
by DADGBD
goroth wrote:UC's point, regardless of whether it raises ethical or moral issues, is that many fairly basic decisions that a parent must face with regard to their children can be boiled down to, if you want to be reductionist about it, indoctrination. But it is your responsibility as a parent to give your children a framework through which they can understand their world, and I'll be fucked if I'm going to trust someone else to give them that framework. Diet, for all parents, is a part of that. Whether it is to do with meat/veg, fast food/home made, whether you can put tomato ketchup on your bolognese or not, artificial sweetners/sugar... It is unavoidable, and it is unavoidable that you will transfer, or "indoctrinate" your children after your own behaviour and philosophical ideals. And some children will get a more nuanced picture, and some will get dogma.
Good parents will pause and reflect over whether they are feeding their children dogma or giving them some latitude for free thinking, and I assume I'm not alone in worrying about veering too far to either side, questioning what things I am consciously and subconsciously imparting. That's why I think that the mere fact that this thread exists is reason enough to believe that the children in question will end up with a pretty healthy attitude to dietary choices.
Well said. And let's not underestimate free will. Some kids just are who they are - and regardless of how they're raised, and what kind of parenting (or lack of) they've had - they're going to grow up to do and be who they are.
Re: Raising vegetarian children
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:52 pm
by UglyCasanova
DADGBD wrote:And let's not underestimate free will.
Must...resist...starting...another...discussion!
Also, goroth is truth.
Re: Raising vegetarian children
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:09 pm
by jrfox92
Re: Raising vegetarian children
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:56 pm
by D.o.S.
goroth wrote:
Slight sidetrack: I don't think it is reasonable to equate the eating of meat to the infliction of suffering upon animals. There's an awful difference in terms of welfare and also suffering in the final moments of life when comparing a Belgian Blue bred on a Dutch mega farm, to an animal raised on a small scale farm and slaughtered on site.
Leaf eater here: Totally agreed.
Re: Raising vegetarian children
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:03 pm
by UglyCasanova
D.o.S. wrote:goroth wrote:
Slight sidetrack: I don't think it is reasonable to equate the eating of meat to the infliction of suffering upon animals. There's an awful difference in terms of welfare and also suffering in the final moments of life when comparing a Belgian Blue bred on a Dutch mega farm, to an animal raised on a small scale farm and slaughtered on site.
Utilitarian here: AMA.
Re: Raising vegetarian children
Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:22 am
by goroth
If you are only talking about suffering, and not death, then utilitarianism leads to a roughly similar conclusion as my first post.
Re: Raising vegetarian children
Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:21 pm
by Benn Roe
Thanks for the suggestions, sharing of experiences, and votes of confidence everyone. I'm still pretty new at this whole parenting thing, so it all helps immensely.
Re: Raising vegetarian children
Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:02 pm
by Blackened Soul
Oh! This about what to feed to children... I thought this would be a cooking thread.
Re: Raising vegetarian children
Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:58 pm
by jrfox92
Tried some of those Quorn nuggets.
I swear, that texture is exactly like how I remember chicken.
Honestly, if someone told me it was actual chicken, I wouldn't be too surprised.
Re: Raising vegetarian children
Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:32 pm
by oldangelmidnight
It's pretty good until it starts to cool off or if you get a really big bite.
Re: Raising vegetarian children
Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 7:25 pm
by jrfox92
oldangelmidnight wrote:It's pretty good until it starts to cool off or if you get a really big bite.
Yeah, it's weird, I'm so used to the taste of Morning Star that it just didn't taste right to me.
Like, too chicken-y.
Granted, I prefer the buffalo stuff because I'm way more into spicy, so it could also be that.
Re: Raising vegetarian children
Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 8:56 pm
by oldangelmidnight
My favorite is to do a kind of chicken parmesan thing. Patty plus sauce plus cheese on pasta or a roll. Fantastic.
Re: Raising vegetarian children
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:36 pm
by Disarm D'arcy
So you guys have some good blogs/youtube channels for vegetarian/vegan recipes and ideas?
Re: Raising vegetarian children
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:27 pm
by jrfox92
Disarm D'arcy wrote:So you guys have some good blogs/youtube channels for vegetarian/vegan recipes and ideas?
Tasty/Buzzfeed's new Vegetarian channel has some nice recipes.
Re: Raising vegetarian children
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:30 pm
by D.o.S.
Disarm D'arcy wrote:So you guys have some good blogs/youtube channels for vegetarian/vegan recipes and ideas?
YOU'RE SO FUCKING DOMESTIC.
So I am going to recommend Hot for Food. It's food porn. It's vegan. It's good.
https://www.youtube.com/user/hotforfoodblog
