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Re: New Meshuggah is coming

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:09 am
by Iommic Pope
goroth wrote:
Iommic Pope wrote:They've already done an album without a bassist (cannot recall which one)
I've just quickly listened to all their albums and they all have bass on them. Unless you got the special cane toad version with no bass...
:animal:

They did play a few gigs without a bassist due to shit.
I'm thinking back to a Guitar World interview I used to have with them discussing going digital and basically working from home and being a virtual band for a period.
Maybe it was about the same time they lost their bass player?
Pretty sure they may have told him to cram it because they had lots of strings and it was all shiny and new?
They probably just dubbed some bass for the record.

I dunno, I'm going senile.

Re: New Meshuggah is coming

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:17 am
by D.o.S.
Pope I think the story is that they didn't have a bassist for Nothing so Frederick played bass on that album.

But you need that rampaging ball bearing with a switchblade sound for Meshuggah to sound like Meshuggah, IMO.

Re: New Meshuggah is coming

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:20 am
by D.o.S.
There's also this:
http://seaoftranquility.org/article.php?sid=441
Tomas: The way this album was written is very different from the way we normally write stuff, and a lot of the guitar stuff were done on a spur of the moment type of thing. We had the guitar plugged through a Line6 straight through to a PC digitally, and as soon as someone would come up with an idea for a riff, he would record that riff immediately, all four guitars and the bass, because a lot of the things are really, really random, like the notations and the actual finger placements on the neck, there's a lot of real quirky stuff going on. Maybe we could have done it, but it would have taken so much time to record drums to go along with these riffs, which had been changed like ten times each, at least, that I would have had to re-record and re-learn the drum parts over and over again. It would have taken too much time. That's one aspect. The other one is that once we were like 15-20 minutes into the album we noticed that the programmed drums sounded really good, the samples sounded so good even before we mixed them, and it just supported the overall feel and vibe of the album, the super steady, no fills, almost emotionless type of drumming, even though it sounds like a real drummer. We just felt it went well with the style of music we were writing, so we said "fuck it" and went with it. We have always been about breaking taboos, and as a metal band, and maybe especially as a metal band like us, we have a lot of musician followers, so maybe for us it's a little more taboo to use programmed drums, but to some extent maybe that's another reason why we did it.
For Catch 33.

Also, ah, 2005 -- when no metal bands would admit to using sampled drums.

Re: New Meshuggah is coming

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:22 am
by Iommic Pope
D.o.S. wrote:Pope I think the story is that they didn't have a bassist for Nothing so Frederick played bass on that album.

But you need that rampaging ball bearing with a switchblade sound for Meshuggah to sound like Meshuggah, IMO.
AH yeah, that sounds right.
Thanks, bud!

Yes.
Yes you do.

That makes sense now I read it.
Nerds.

Re: New Meshuggah is coming

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:24 am
by D.o.S.
You could also call it "robot infants having a temper tantrum"

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDNcLQ9qc1o[/youtube]

Re: New Meshuggah is coming

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:35 am
by goroth
D.o.S. wrote: Also, ah, 2005 -- when Haake needed extra cash from kids buying Drumkit From Hell.
Fix'd, most cynically.

Re: New Meshuggah is coming

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:47 pm
by ck3
Reverse Catch-33-era Meshuggah, i.e., real drums and programmed guitars:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLXM6HVUOm8[/youtube]

Re: New Meshuggah is coming

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:49 pm
by D.o.S.
And most crucially: not Meshuggah.

Re: New Meshuggah is coming

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 7:19 am
by ck3
Right. I Should have been more clear about that and worded the post more like a comparison. The track was composed by the drummer of Intervals, i.e., a band sort of like Periphery with slightly less annoying vocals (on album that actually incorporate them) and lots of meedly meedly solos.

Re: New Meshuggah is coming

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:21 pm
by D.o.S.
:p I just meant that the 'reverse' of Meshuggah is to not be Meshuggah.

Re: New Meshuggah is coming

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 5:32 am
by goroth
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmtU2WJfPgU[/youtube]

I'm just putting this out there for reference. In case anyone was still under the mistaken impression Periphery is good.
I mean, being a metal fan I can't really demand good lyrics, but I can at least hope for lyrics that aren't abominably bad. And those vocals... :barf:
So much this.
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Sorry for pooing on Periphery for you duders who dig em.

Re: New Meshuggah is coming

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:19 am
by chrisdermo
goroth wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmtU2WJfPgU[/youtube]

I'm just putting this out there for reference. In case anyone was still under the mistaken impression Periphery is good.
I mean, being a metal fan I can't really demand good lyrics, but I can at least hope for lyrics that aren't abominably bad. And those vocals... :barf:
So much this.
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Sorry for pooing on Periphery for you duders who dig em.
First time hearing periphery. Will never ever listen again. :picard:

Re: New Meshuggah is coming

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:28 am
by Jwar
They suck!! See I'm right!! Fuck those assholes! :)

Re: New Meshuggah is coming

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:50 am
by chrisdermo
jwar wrote:They suck!! See I'm right!! Fuck those assholes! :)
It sucked hard, I wasn't at all prepared for the amount of suckiness that sucky song was gonna SUCK.

Let's get back to the good shit.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx0klv82BDA[/youtube]

Re: New Meshuggah is coming

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:03 pm
by ck3
D.o.S. wrote::p I just meant that the 'reverse' of Meshuggah is to not be Meshuggah.
Un-shuggah'd? Perhipery'd? Crabcore'd? :idk:

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