Kanye West vs. Bob Ezrin - Best Kanye Beef Of 2016 IMO

[casecandy]

I'm not, really. Just ball busting.

Consider my balls busted.

[Invisible Man]

still not sure this entire thread isnt just a troll and everyone's playing along...

This is my attitude toward every thread on ILF that doesn't contain the words "rad," "fuzz," and "pedal" in that order.

Still not sure casecandy is serious about anything. You've got to be aware that D.o.S. is making a second career out of baiting you. You always bite. And it's exquisite.

Anyway, Kanye. It's not for me.

[rustywire]

First correction: RZA was doing the "chipmunk soul" shit in the mid 90s and the credit goes to him afaik.
Second: *Autotune as an instrument* existed for decades as vocoders and talk boxes. Peter Frampton pmuch made a career of it. Daft Punk ring a bell?
Third: Ye has an ear for loops, arrangements & hooks...and is a passionate guy about it all. If he were as smart as ppl (including him) think he is... he'd abandon the autotune and put out an album of Golddigger-type renaissance. It would be HUGE.

For my part I didn't say he was the first to do the "chipmunk soul" samples I said he was responsible for the early 00's hits by Jay-Z and others. He brought it to the mainstream. (Although I don't think your comment was directed at me, just to clarify haha).
Also auto-tune is not the same thing as a vocoder. http://www.xxlmag.com/news/bloggers/200 ... -nonsense/

Yeah the corrections are for cc's hubristic proclamations & I'm still [wtf!] implying RZA aint mainstream.
ATTN cc: Holla at Bobby Digital. In stereo
Also I'm aware of the difference in hardware vocoders, talk boxes...harmonizers...& software like autotune...my point was to pump them brakes at gushes of *groundbreaking technique* in producing a distinct style of sustained, robotic-harmonized-into-flourishes-of-melisma type vox as a focal point, crutch, or gimmick. IMO its as dated as gated 80s snares w/chorus on everything...only this style's pushback cant seem to come soon enough. If/when Kanye puts out an album with conspicuous absence of autotune the mainstream will declare [it] dead, because he's like a living meme slideshow & treated as if he invented hiphop and arthouse theatrics. He's just good at it...but I have never been a fan of his vox & delivery. Still, he's good at it.

Fav song on the new album is Real Friends. Autotune & all, but I could really do without it

[D.o.S.]

this is now a rustywire appreciation thread.

[infamousalien]

Yeah the corrections are for cc's hubristic proclamations & I'm still [wtf!] implying RZA aint mainstream.
ATTN cc: Holla at Bobby Digital. In stereo

I think RZA has more talent in his pinky than Kanye has in his whole body. That said suburban white girls don't bump Wu-Tang like they do Kanye. I also saw 808 and Heartbreaks for sale at Whole Foods. Couldn't imagine (and don't want to ) Wu-Tang albums being sold there.

[D.o.S.]

I got, myself a 40

I got, myself a shorty

[casecandy]

Still not sure casecandy is serious about anything. You've got to be aware that D.o.S. is making a second career out of baiting you. You always bite. And it's exquisite.

Do I bite or he does he bite though

[SPACERITUAL]

For someone who is so aesthetically inclined to venture into fashion, his album art has been weak as fuck these past two records.

I mean did you see his garbage ass collections?? How anyone can believe he has "an interest in fashion" is beyond me.

[D.o.S.]

Still not sure casecandy is serious about anything. You've got to be aware that D.o.S. is making a second career out of baiting you. You always bite. And it's exquisite.

Do I bite or he does he bite though

I mean I think we're pretty obviously a Laurel and Hardy Orbouros thing. I can live with that, even if it makes us the Ying Yang twins by proxy.

[casecandy]

Oddly enough, Ying Yang Twins By Proxy is the name of my new HNW project

[Joe Gress]

Listened to it twice through. I appreciate his producing and his way of creating an album as a whole. His rapping and lyrics? No fucking way.

Already deleted it. No thanks.

[Iommic Pope]

For someone who is so aesthetically inclined to venture into fashion, his album art has been weak as fuck these past two records.

I mean did you see his garbage ass collections?? How anyone can believe he has "an interest in fashion" is beyond me.

I didn't even want to step into this thread, but I figured this'd be happening so I'm glad I did.

If anyone around here is qualified to make a statement concerning "interests in fashion", it is Space.
I'm pretty much convinced he is more interested in boots than pedals.
This is a compliment.


Also backing up the RZA.

[casecandy]

His rapping and lyrics? No fucking way.

Some days I'm in my Yeezys, some days I'm in my Vans
If I knew y'all made plans I wouldn't have popped the Xans
I know some fans who thought I wouldn't rap like this again
But the writer's block is over, emcees cancel your plans

I don't know... that was pretty fuckin tight

[infamousalien]

Listened to it twice through. I appreciate his producing and his way of creating an album as a whole. His rapping and lyrics? No fucking way.

What about this gem:

"Now if I fuck this model
And she just bleached her asshole
And I get bleach on my t-shirt
Imma feel like an asshole"

[D.o.S.]

Yeah Kanye's rapping (the stuff that wasn't ghostwritten) is not the hill to die on.