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You can go 100% wet - play with the mix knob. note when it changes to "wet" or a different display.

Before 100% wet it's near unity on mine.

rfurtkamp wrote:
Before 100% wet it's near unity on mine.

This.

No shit? On mine it's definitely not 'near unity' right before it gets 100% wet. Maybe something's wrong with mine?

And besides, why should I settle for 'near unity'? On every single digital delay I owned so far the repeats could be dialed in about twice as loud as the dry signal. From bearly unity straight to 100% wet, that's kinda akward imo, to say the least

I have to agree with frigid midget. On my timebender the repeats never get to unity and definitely never get above unity. I even tried using a compressor but it still didn't satisfy me.

Not sure if you've already looked into it, but recently the zoom ms70cdr and ms100bt have caught my eye. They have a sample hold trigger mode that does some nice glitching effects, a pitch shifting delay, as well as a host of other things. It doesn't harmonize your delays though, unfortunately.

Can we all bug Ryan at Dr Scientist to make a good and intelligent pitch shifting delay?

This guy talks about it pretty in depth and has some decent sound clips for each effect.

https://m.reddit.com/r/guitarpedals/com ... ultistomp/

I'll look into that, thanks!

Btw, the 100% setting is just as quiet as the loudest mix setting right before it gets 100% wet. So the last bit on the control just cuts the dry signal, without affecting the volume or anything.

BUT...Since my amp has two seperate inputs, with their own volume controls...I could try splitting my chain with an aby switch, and send the 'dry' signal to one input of the amp, and the tb 100% wet to the other input. Harder to explain that to actually do, I can't see why it wouldn't work.

Save for the DD500 or wait for a used one in 1 year or so.

Yea, just send it to the second channel and control it that way.

The "Dry" range just affects the output level of the wet signal, I have mine floored but it's also running a line level stereo signal

My 'home' amp is an AC15C2, which also has two channels that can be used simultaniously. So the quiet repeats shouldn't be a huge problem if I get used to the faux stereo approach.

So far:

The moving heads, tape and analog modes, and even the digital mode, all sound VERY similar to me, though that's probably partially because the repeats are too quiet to notice the more subtle differences. The other analog delay peds (both bbd and digital emulation) I used to have usually had some sort of degradation on the repeats. And I really like it when things get murkier and mushier with each repeat. Nothing like that on the timebender's bbd emulation though, which is too bad imo. Even my ancient DL-4 did an okay job in that departement The digital setting doesn't get crystal clear, like I said it sounds really close to the analog mode The tone control influences the glassyness of the digital mode a bit, but apparantly it also affects the overal volume of the repeats
With the tone control all the way down, the repeats DO go upto unity, but when it's all the way up, the repeats are just super quiet.
Not a problem for the analog mode, which is what I use the most anyway. Cause for the analog mode the repeats gets more mushy and dark with the tone control turned down.

The dynamic modes don't work as good as I hoped they would, I can't get the repeats to go quiet in parts where I'm pciking/strumming heavily. So it might still be useer error I guess.
The warp mode is a bit too wacky for me. So is the modulation on EVERYTHING. Cheesy cold chorus, annoying even at the lowest levels. The reverse seems louder than the rest, goes upto unity, controry to the other modes Sounds good, though it obviously doesn't work the same as the reverse mode on the almighty DD-5. Envelope mode is awesome, eliminates my GAS for a square wave tremelo.

The pattern knob is awesome, every digital delay should have that.

The pitch shifting is a lot of fun, but I'm still not sure if I'll use it a lot for actual songs/riffs in my bands/projects.


Haven't touched the looper yet.

Some of the meh stuff might automaticly be solved when I plug it into my 'big' rig, with the two inputs and loud repeats.

The thing also is that the modes react differently to changing the time while using - i.e. moving head responds similarly to an Echoplex and moving the head, the multihead acts like a Space Echo does, etc.

Tone control is an awful lot of what makes it all useful for differentiation.

The mushiness/degradation of repeats is something I don't associate with analog delay personally, but I'm used to the vintage stuff *when* it was current or recently out of favor. The old ones just don't get mushy like even the mid 90s last gasp ones did or the modern ones generally do. DL4 I've always hated, so....could explain some difference of opinion.

Also don't have a Vox amp laying around, I've never liked what they did to my sound so, can't determine if there's something not interacting well with the tone stack.

Ducking delay is something you have to learn to play to that particular unit. That's how they always have been, and probably always will be.

Yeah, not the one delay to bring them all and in the darkness bind them, but still a pretty little miracle for all it does do crazy cheep or no...hope on balance it's worthwhile for ya

how did I miss 5 pages of timebender love until now??????????????????????????????????

I do have an echolution 2 that will do about what a time bender does but is not as user friendly
and a pitchfactor takes you there a bit as well

New board will include all three!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yarp

I know my vox isn't the best amp to judge new peds, but I'd be surprised if my Traynor will be able to fix everything.

A lot of these small caveats may still be a matter of user error to a certain extend, and my GAS for this pedal probably raised my expectation a little too much
I also suspect that the timebender is the bees knees if you're into those wacky pitch shifting repeats. But besides that and a couple other neat futures (pattern selection, tone control, etc,...) I think there *might* be better options out there for someone who's mainly into good realistic and tweakable tape/analog delays plus maybe a couple extras (modulation, digital , reverse, hold, loop,...). To each their own I guess

Realistic tape delay is in the thing, I can A/B to my Space Echo and get most of the way there except the stuff that only tape can do (and it's not modulation)

I'm with you on the tape emulation thing rfurtkamp--I think sounds like the El Capistan are kinda cool, but they sound nothing like the Roland tape units we used to have around and we weren't fetishists about upkeep. When I hear something like an El Capistan with all the bells and whistles turned on I get this amusing image of a smoking, flame licked RE miraculously still rolling tape....

Me, if I want grainy and wonky, Meet Maude keeps me happy enough. Still, I understand if someone has there heart set on the sounds delivered by El Capistan or other modern digital emulations of seriously degraded/wonky machinery, they're probably not going to love the TimeBender's tape modes.

Frigid Midget--yeah, I think the magick in the TimeBender is moreso in the wacky modes and less so in the straight-up sounds. Hopefully you can flip that puppy for what you paid and strike gold next time.