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Mudfuzz wrote:

D.o.S. wrote:

casecandy wrote:You guys sure seem to think that people listen to the music their demographics are supposed to listen to.
Pretty superficial IMO...

Demographics ain't got nothing to do with refusing to cowtail when shitty music gets paraded as the good stuff.

You mean like NIN, Foo Fighters, The White Stripes, QOTSA and The Smashing Pumpkins?

This basically heresy and you should flog yourself until you think correctly.

I disagree with most of those, BUT i do think that the White Stripes are horrendously overrated

ps: despite that, i still have a soft spot for "Screwdriver", because it was one of the first songs I tried to learn when I got my first electric guitar. Fantastic riff

D.o.S. wrote:

Mudfuzz wrote:

D.o.S. wrote:

casecandy wrote:You guys sure seem to think that people listen to the music their demographics are supposed to listen to.
Pretty superficial IMO...

Demographics ain't got nothing to do with refusing to cowtail when shitty music gets paraded as the good stuff.

You mean like NIN, Foo Fighters, The White Stripes, QOTSA and The Smashing Pumpkins?

This basically heresy and you should flog yourself until you think correctly.

I once wrote a song called heresy, my drummer wouldn't play it because he said it was in 11/7

Mudfuzz wrote:

D.o.S. wrote:

casecandy wrote:You guys sure seem to think that people listen to the music their demographics are supposed to listen to.
Pretty superficial IMO...

Demographics ain't got nothing to do with refusing to cowtail when shitty music gets paraded as the good stuff.

You mean like NIN, Foo Fighters, The White Stripes, QOTSA and The Smashing Pumpkins?

hey man they all have a couple of good songs.. or that one... you know what never mind.
i always get this sensation when i listen to bands like that that i used to be into in my early teens and there's like 30 seconds of 'hey yeah this still has a nice ring to it', then the chorus or whatever kicks in and i'm like 'oh wait yeah no forget that'

i'm glad (almost) everyone agrees about the Eagles though. every one of their songs is several seconds of musical information strung out into several minutes. it's like listening to a washing machine spin, you know exactly what's happening so why would you pay attention to it, go and do something else instead of just waiting for it to stop.

I think there are lots of good records that are 'several seconds of musical information strung out into several minutes.' They're just not in the Eagles catalog.

D.o.S. wrote:I think there are lots of good records that are 'several seconds of musical information strung out into several minutes.' They're just not in the Eagles catalog.

you're right, but what i would argue is that in those 'good records', the actual temporal progression elicits an additional source of information, whereas in the case of bands like the Eagles, the actual journey from start to finish isn't giving you anything, you're just idling along.
we have different modes of listening to music that explain why different people like different things so when i say something is bad that's relative to my own modes of listening, but i certainly don't think the Eagles fall into the 'active listening' category. it hooks you and doesn't require attention, there's less 'listening' happening than there is 'following'.
i realise that's a silly and abstract way to put it but i had a lot of directionless frustrating discussion with uni lecturers etc about stuff like this and i still don't think anyone really knows what they're talking about, myself included

Yeah I would agree with that. I think that's part of what makes listening to a three note phrase for twenty or thirty minutes often more rewarding than listening to someone play that same phrase for two or three.

the White Stripes are horrendously overrated

Not really... I mean, few bands could really live up to that level of hype and worship. But they're in no way and bad band. Not even a mediocre band. So while I might agree on paper, they're not a go-to overrated band or anything. They are legitimately quite good and pretty influential too.

Three things. Possibly four.

D.o.S. wrote:Three things. Possibly four.

Movin' up in the world!

Now you just have to stop liking things that are bad and we'll be peachy.

D.o.S. wrote:Now you just have to stop liking things that are bad and we'll be peachy.

Dude I don't like anything bad

casecandy wrote:Dude I don't like anything bad

not sure about that due to this thread..

Let's be clear: I like some Eagles songs, almost exclusively because of nostalgia. Read what I wrote, you'll see.

Bruce Springsteen, though. I will not bend or break on that one. First seven albums 1973-1986 are one of the most influential and enduring album runs in rock music. First four albums 1973-1978, absolutely flawless. To be clear:

- Greetings from Asbury Park, N.J.
- The Wild, the Innocent, and the E Street Shuffle
- Born to Run
- Darkness on the Edge of Town

Absolutely flawless.