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I appreciate some of Gangway Malmsteem's work, "Rising Force" slips on occasionally if I'm in the mood.

The man has a heck of a sense of melody but it's not for everybody.

I don't think I'd want to listen to it more than occasionally but he was (perhaps is, not sure, his new material hasn't interested me in a long, long time) a fine technician and writer of stuff in that vein.

I figure technical prowess show-offery is just another form of expression, no less or more valid than any other. We all have strengths and weaknesses. Maybe Yngwie and his ilk are not good at songwriting, but they're good at guitar playing, so they plays to their strengths. You kind of have to take any artistic expression on its own terms, although of course you don't have to listen to it.

I just simply have very little emotional connection to his music and lot of players mentioned that are similar. Obviously he's talented but the music I find myself loving is not really about technical skill. Even though I enjoy music that is technical, I think the presentation and mood of that kind of music is unappealing and unexciting.

ChetMagongalo wrote:I just simply have very little emotional connection to his music and lot of players mentioned that are similar. Obviously he's talented but the music I find myself loving is not really about technical skill. Even though I enjoy music that is technical, I think the presentation and mood of that kind of music is unappealing and unexciting.

Yeah it's not usually for me, either.

Though I do like DragonForce a lot and not ironically.

retinal orbita wrote: Sound of Perseverance is a great example of technichal ability and great songwriting.....

Yep on so many levels!

friendship wrote:I figure technical prowess show-offery is just another form of expression, no less or more valid than any other. We all have strengths and weaknesses. Maybe Yngwie and his ilk are not good at songwriting, but they're good at guitar playing, so they plays to their strengths. You kind of have to take any artistic expression on its own terms, although of course you don't have to listen to it.

In a thread that started off as completely random, you really hit the nail on the head!

I happen to think though that Yngwie writes some great songs...

Yep, if the music doesn't resonate with you, no harm done. Different folks like different things.

Heck, most post-rock stuff bores me to tears as much as lawyerblues. Yet I can appreciate a good song in any genre, if it speaks to me.

As long as you're open to whatever as you hear it, carry on!

vidret wrote:

friendship wrote:

ChetMagongalo wrote:I just simply have very little emotional connection to his music and lot of players mentioned that are similar. Obviously he's talented but the music I find myself loving is not really about technical skill. Even though I enjoy music that is technical, I think the presentation and mood of that kind of music is unappealing and unexciting.

Yeah it's not usually for me, either.

Though I do like DragonForce a lot and not ironically.

hehe liking something ironically. says something about the band when you have to say you don't even like them ironically hahaha


oh and i saw yngwie summer of '12, great sound, so boring.

Haha. I'd say it says more about the culture of cynicism and insincerity where you have to quality your appreciation as a non-joke.

theavondon wrote:

D.o.S. wrote:On the flip side, I wonder how many people would really be able to define the line between "obnoxious wank fest" and "serving the song."

For example, there's no real plausible difference between, say, Earth 2 or a Yngwie record. Or The Grimmrobe Demos and a Steve Vai LP. They're both records that bring the guitar to the forefront at the expense of everything else.

Yngwie Malmsteen or Steve Vai probably don't blaze it 25/8 though, so, y'know, invalidated.

Oh my god dude sig'd.

I'd argue that Earth 2 or Sunn O))) in general aren't about really about music at all... not as we get music i mean

it's more like a sonic experience... more like putting on audio drugs or audio therapy

And Yngwie doesn't make you feel like you're on drugs?

Granted, they're bad drugs...

But for what you're talking about I'd say that Merzbow's a much better alternative (and I'd rather listen to Merzbow than the original Earth "band" 3,665,500 days a week)

Yngwie will also have a special place in my heart for a collective inside joke among friends.

Whenever we'd go see each other at various shows, it was imperative to insert a Yngwie-appropriate squelch/chirp in whatever you were playing at least once when your friends arrived.

DarkAxel wrote:I'd argue that Earth 2 or Sunn O))) in general aren't about really about music at all... not as we get music i mean

Oh young Padawan so much is still to learn...

D.o.S. wrote:

theavondon wrote:Yngwie Malmsteen or Steve Vai probably don't blaze it 25/8 though, so, y'know, invalidated.

Oh my god dude sig'd.

That was the best thing in the thread...

Yngwie-appropriate squelch/chirp...

D.o.S. wrote:and I'd rather listen to Merzbow than the original Earth "band" 3,665,500 days a week)

Yo word holmes I am on board with this....

I referred to it most often as a Yngwie Boink.

Because that's what it must feel like to be penetrated by the master of speed and time.

rfurtkamp wrote:Yngwie Boink.

He needs to build an Arduino controller and hook it up to his Ferrari's throttles so he can have them on stage and when he starts the wankfest 12 Ferraris can wank in tune with engines revving...

I would pay to see that...