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Re: Black Arts Toneworks BLACK FOREST

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:23 am
by BlindtoFaith
Ancient Astronaught wrote:
Holy Schnikes wrote:The Rat variant sounds super SICK, I'd love one of those. Somehow, I've lived without one for many, many years. B.A.T.'s take on it would be a must have.:thumb:


100% agreed!

I'm glad BAT is taking off, he's really captured what alot of people are looking for and i'm an avid supporter. Not only does he make great product's but he's a stand up guy himself and answers his own email's, whether i use them or not (which i most likely will in the studio or live) i will probably end up ordering everything he makes, i just hope he doesn't stick with only doing dirt pedal's i would love to see him expand out to a full line of pedals.


He is interested in the idea of doing a wah but fears that he will have to charge too much. Sounds like a he cares about all of our wallets!

Re: Black Arts Toneworks BLACK FOREST

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:32 am
by Ancient Astronaught
I've been considering a wah so i would def be interested. i despise the on/off switch on crybaby's, morley's tone and reliability keeps me away from them (even though i love the step on to turn on function), and the aesthetic UNappeal of snarling dogs does not leave much of a selection for me. Plus im looking for a wah that instead of going from 1 <-> 10 on tone is more like -4 <-> 6. i want it going super low almost to mud to a little bit brighter than normal so at the lowest point it almost melt's intot he bass tone and at the highest point is breaks through just a smidge.

Well he's a smart business man, Doom band's don't often sell out venues, we live bar to bar hopeful to get gas money and im glad he's taking that into consideration. Also offering numerous different dirt pedal's each one with a really competitve price make's his market appeal larger and keeping the production runs low in number keeps from flooding the market place driving demand down. Realistically if he could keep the wah around 200 and atleast less than 300 i would be extremely interested,

Re: Black Arts Toneworks BLACK FOREST

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:36 am
by Ancient Astronaught
HOT OF THE PRESS! Looks like the sarcophagus will be the pharaoh plus booster, Jason at GR8Scott say's that this pedal will actually have the paharaoh circuit in it!

Re: Black Arts Toneworks BLACK FOREST

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:38 am
by Holy Schnikes
Here's Mark's response from The Doom Room. Looks like this is one B.A.T. I won't have to buy because I already did...

"Sorry dudes. I seriously don't mean to fuck up your shit. Put your wallets away.

The Sarcophagus is a double fuzz. Pharaoh/LSTR in a single box. Nothing new, certainly you can live without it. It is being built as an exclusive for Prymaxe Vintage. They think it will sell. For 300 clams, I am skeptical."

Along the lines of The Twosome and HoofReaper it appears.

Re: Black Arts Toneworks BLACK FOREST

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:51 am
by Ancient Astronaught
Holy Schnikes wrote:Here's Mark's response from The Doom Room. Looks like this is one B.A.T. I won't have to buy because I already did...

"Sorry dudes. I seriously don't mean to fuck up your shit. Put your wallets away.

The Sarcophagus is a double fuzz. Pharaoh/LSTR in a single box. Nothing new, certainly you can live without it. It is being built as an exclusive for Prymaxe Vintage. They think it will sell. For 300 clams, I am skeptical."

Along the lines of The Twosome and HoofReaper it appears.


Hmmmm 300 dollars to consolidate what i already use into 1 pedal??? I may have to pass unless my pedal baord gets really cluttered, UNLESS it's a 3 button footswitch that allows on / off of each side and a universal on / off which would eliminate my loop pedal idea of using the pharaoh / lster in a loop to use both together as my main distortion with a one button on/off.

Re: Black Arts Toneworks BLACK FOREST

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:57 am
by Holy Schnikes
Ancient Astronaught wrote:Hmmmm 300 dollars to consolidate what i already use into 1 pedal??? I may have to pass unless my pedal baord gets really cluttered, UNLESS it's a 3 button footswitch that allows on / off of each side and a universal on / off which would eliminate my loop pedal idea of using the pharaoh / lster in a loop to use both together as my main distortion with a one button on/off.

Yep, it would be wise to set it up in this fashion, much like the HoofReaper. I'd be interested if it was ultra compact but I can't see it being much smaller than the two side by side...

Re: Black Arts Toneworks BLACK FOREST

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:14 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
I think if it's in the same size enclosure as my EQD ghost disaster i would consider it. It would be less cables to run than my whole loop pedal idea, save 2 9v connectors in the daisy chain, plus save space on the live board. I would still hold onto my pharaoh and lstr for studio use and make the sarcophagus my live use pedal.

Re: Black Arts Toneworks BLACK FOREST

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:21 pm
by Holy Schnikes
Good point on saving the 9V, that's always nice! :thumb:

Re: Black Arts Toneworks BLACK FOREST

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:38 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
Holy Schnikes wrote:Good point on saving the 9V, that's always nice! :thumb:


Agreed! Think I might have to shoot mark an email and get some questions answered but I'm seriously considering this now.

Re: Black Arts Toneworks BLACK FOREST

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:41 pm
by Holy Schnikes
Report back with any details, please?

Re: Black Arts Toneworks BLACK FOREST

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:56 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
As long as they aren't confidential. No problem!

Re: Black Arts Toneworks BLACK FOREST

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:18 pm
by shardy
Should be Empress superdelay size with mini pots for tone and scoop and big pots for volume and gain :) ...
That would be perfect if you axe me :) ....

Re: Black Arts Toneworks BLACK FOREST

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:28 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
shardy wrote:Should be Empress superdelay size with mini pots for tone and scoop and big pots for volume and gain :) ...
That would be perfect if you axe me :) ....


That's exactly what i was thinking! I've got some more specific questions i just got back to the comp so i am going to email mark and see what i can find out....

Re: Black Arts Toneworks BLACK FOREST

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:35 pm
by shardy
Try to find out the correct measures :)

Re: Black Arts Toneworks BLACK FOREST

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:42 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
ahhh i knew i forgot to ask something, i have a feeling it will be identical to the size of James's Gemini pedal he had made so it should be the exact same hammond enclosure which is the size of my ghost disaster which i believe is really close to the empress super delay.