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Re: school me on fuzz faces

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:53 pm
by devnulljp
CBA713 wrote:BLARP.

The one I purchased on eBay says Dallas-Arbiter England in the smile but has the innards of a Dunlop one. i.e. It's a combo of the two in the GMD video, and I wanted the innards of the bottom one.

WELP.

C
That's a 90s RI -- the first batch of those had the Dallas-Arbiter England smilie. They had fake/crap/RI NKT275s IIRC, usually poorly matched and mostly sounded awful (from the ones I tried anyway).
They're good for gutting -- I got one on CL for $40, sold the guts for $50 and put an old Cornell circuit in there -- that one sounded awful with the original mismatched leaky AC128s so I put in some nice Matsushita trannies. Sounded great.
Hope you didn't pay a lot for it ...
I've got one of those newer ones here too I got cheap off ebay. Replaced everything on the board and it sounds pretty good. I might stick a pigeonFX board in there though ... got a spare one here somewhere.

I've got one of those copper top Joe Yawnamassa FFs i n the mail -- curious how that'll sound.
I like my '69 BC183L though
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Re: school me on fuzz faces

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:40 pm
by univalve
Please make a short review about the copper! And if possible, check it also with single coils. Thanks.

Re: school me on fuzz faces

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:54 pm
by CBA
devnulljp wrote:
CBA713 wrote:BLARP.

The one I purchased on eBay says Dallas-Arbiter England in the smile but has the innards of a Dunlop one. i.e. It's a combo of the two in the GMD video, and I wanted the innards of the bottom one.

WELP.

C
That's a 90s RI -- the first batch of those had the Dallas-Arbiter England smilie. They had fake/crap/RI NKT275s IIRC, usually poorly matched and mostly sounded awful (from the ones I tried anyway).


I was under the impression that they were both 90s reissues... which one are you talking about? Reference my two pics that I posted yesterday... are you talking about the top one? I just thought they were both kind of out of the same run, with the top one being the newer version.

C

Re: school me on fuzz faces

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:18 pm
by devnulljp
This one is early 90s -- I mailed Dunlop and they said the Dallas Arbiter thing was just an agreement to let them use the name for a while. Pretty sure Dave Fox talked about that changeover between Crest and Dunlop making FFs and I guessed they just had a lot of DA labeled enclosures kicking around.

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The ones I've played were terrible stock -- those fake NKT275s .... :facepalm:

I put some guts out of a Cornell in mine w/ a matched pair of NOS Matsushita 2SB172s rather than the crappy AC128s that it came with.

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I have another one of those mouthless ones too like I said w/ replaced components -- pretty sure they're a bit more recent.

Re: school me on fuzz faces

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:31 pm
by CBA
The one with the supposed NKT-275s didn't come with the rubber smily thing, so I don't know what it said originally. My guess is that it said Dallas-Arbiter. The newer one says Dallas-Arbiter, but has the newer wiring with the long plastic white thing.

I'm having an issue with the newer one... it's really noisy. When I turn the pedal on, it works, but when I'm not playing, there is just a loud wall of white noise/static. Do you think something needs to be cleaned or is it more fucked up than that?

I'm going to e-mail the guy I brought it from to discuss some sort of reconciliation as the damn thing is not working properly.

I must say also that both of them sound good to my ears. The newer one is a bit louder, which perhaps accounts for some people thinking it has better tone... when I turn it down slightly, it sounds pretty close to the older NKT-275 one. The latter is a bit more thickfuzz while the newer one has a bit more sizzle/distortion to it (taking into account the noise).


C

Re: school me on fuzz faces

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:52 pm
by eatyourguitar
it could be horribly misbiased from the factory