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Lurker13 wrote:

Iommic Pope wrote:Did something change or are NK actually a nuclear threat now?
I thought all their 50s bond villain technology just dropped shit in the ocean?
Dont stress about them anyway, China won't allow it.
Plus, your president doesn't understand Game Theory at its most basic, thats far more concerning.
The whole point of having nuclear armaments is not to go around relling wveryone that youll use them willy nilly.
And how the fuck did this all blow up so quickly? Weren't you just batting Assad down the other day?
Take care of that mother fucker, send a message to the other dickbags, dont hype your shit.
Getnoff the hype train, America .

Well, it's like this - they have successfully tested nuclear weapons, they have a rocket program that has a goal of building ICBMs that can reach America, and they want to miniaturize their nukes to fit on their ICBMs. In short, they want to be able to threaten us with a nuclear attack.

China hasn't done anything to stop them yet, and I doubt they will, or even could if they wanted to. If they stop sending money to North Korea, they could have a flood of refugees coming across the border, which they definitely don't want.

Assad is butcher, but he can't project force beyond his own borders, so his butchering is limited to his own people. But yeah, they should have flown one of those Tomahawks right in the bedroom window of his presidential palace.

And yes, Trump is too senile for game theory.

I was aware of NK's program, but I didnt think there had been any leaps and bounds in regards to it actually being capably deployed.
Yeah the China situation is very complex, but ultimately I think theyd step in. Theyre too economically invested in the real world to let this shit run out of hand.
I also believe Japan has some kind of giant robot project, so theres that (sort of but not kidding. Japan are wearing human skin under their buttoned down business dad attire).
Yeah, Assad is a total shitbag. He's just another of Vlad's puppets, though.
You gotta wonder if that guy isnt in a hot tub with some popcorn, a bear and a super model, laughing hs ass off.

Lurker13 wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/worl ... ction&_r=0

I had a quick skim of that and ive been catxhing up on some other NK related news, but i honestly think this isnmore of an endeavour into two-fold spin.
Firstly, yeah, NK need to be slagged publicly whenever they launch something, that has to happen, but seconldy, and perhaps more importantly, elevating them to #1 threat over ISIS/ISIL/whatever is lovely little exercise in spin that takes the heat off of the real problem and gets everyone all panicked up.
This happened when gulf war ii hit the doldrums as well.
I dunno, smells like a spam sandwich.

I don't believe Assad is a butcher. A year before all this shit started you could look in western magazines like the New Yorker, Vanity Fair and newpapers like the NYT about what an outlier Syria was in terms of Muslim countries in the middle east, cosmopolitan and much more secular than other nations of the same ilk. Then all of a sudden the propaganda machine rolls and he is literally Saddam Hussein part II. He went from being an ophthalmologist, to beleaguered and hesitant dictator to a butcher. I don't buy it. I don't believe the protests against him were anything different than what we have seen in Egypt, Libya, Ukraine. IE Public outcry that is manufactured by the globalists in the west that gives way to chaos and the infiltration (by design) of groups like ISIS to destabilize countries that have any semblance of functioning societies in the middle east for greedy fingers of western elites. This shit is for Israel and Saudi Arabia and western globalists. It's not for the civilians of Syria and its not for the USA. Assad randomly decides to gas a small portion of his civilians for...what reason? Encourage support of ISIS? Invitation to get bombed by the US? Get fucking real.

Holy shit i hate posting on mobile.
Apologies, all.

just had this us army old school plane fly over the house....dont know much about planes but it was a double decker wing style old red baron type that read U.S. ARMY

Iommic Pope wrote:

Lurker13 wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/worl ... ction&_r=0

I had a quick skim of that and ive been catxhing up on some other NK related news, but i honestly think this isnmore of an endeavour into two-fold spin.
Firstly, yeah, NK need to be slagged publicly whenever they launch something, that has to happen, but seconldy, and perhaps more importantly, elevating them to #1 threat over ISIS/ISIL/whatever is lovely little exercise in spin that takes the heat off of the real problem and gets everyone all panicked up.
This happened when gulf war ii hit the doldrums as well.
I dunno, smells like a spam sandwich.

Considering KJ-u's bellicose rhetoric, the prospect of him being able to use nukes is very disturbing. ISIS is a bunch of murdering scumbags, but they don't have nukes. They are both threats. How to deal with them both, however, seems to be problematic at the moment.

As for Vlad, I tend to think he's in the hot tub with his supermodel, but at this point he might be thinking "Was Trump really such a good idea? Hilary would have been much more predictable."

It would really be a farce if he really does have something on Trump that could get him impeached. First help get him elected, then get him impeached - how much better could you subvert a democracy? But then he would have to deal with Pence, who is a cookie-cutter conservative Republican.

repoman wrote:I don't believe Assad is a butcher. A year before all this shit started you could look in western magazines like the New Yorker, Vanity Fair and newpapers like the NYT about what an outlier Syria was in terms of Muslim countries in the middle east, cosmopolitan and much more secular than other nations of the same ilk. Then all of a sudden the propaganda machine rolls and he is literally Saddam Hussein part II. He went from being an ophthalmologist, to beleaguered and hesitant dictator to a butcher. I don't buy it. I don't believe the protests against him were anything different than what we have seen in Egypt, Libya, Ukraine. IE Public outcry that is manufactured by the globalists in the west that gives way to chaos and the infiltration (by design) of groups like ISIS to destabilize countries that have any semblance of functioning societies in the middle east for greedy fingers of western elites. This shit is for Israel and Saudi Arabia and western globalists. It's not for the civilians of Syria and its not for the USA. Assad randomly decides to gas a small portion of his civilians for...what reason? Encourage support of ISIS? Invitation to get bombed by the US? Get fucking real.

I think you're wrong… but that's probably the subject of another thread.

Maher Al-Assad firing on unarmed protesters? Tell me that's not butchery. Sure it's a little more blatant maybe than what his brother's done, but…

The way the Al-Assads have dealt with dissent is what's at the heart of the Syrian Civil War. The Alawites are a minority and have held a tenuous authoritarian grasp over the Syrian people. Just because things appeared relaxed when things were going the Al-Assad's way doesn't mean they were.

jokes aside I have been talking to a man who was in Afghanistan when Russia was there, he was to be filming a documentary for the people of the country, to take a look at themselves, though threw the chaos of it all, he became a member of Taliban,
I have finished the first PDF file he sent me, and going to start the second tonight that explains more, I do not know if I can share it, but will see..and try to be formal on this from now on...
really wish it was published because the story is amazing and ties some loose ends up...gives a nice view on Afghanistan before Islam.

heres his directors commentary:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rut6_hT5eKw[/youtube]

repoman wrote: A year before all this shit started you could look in western magazines like the New Yorker, Vanity Fair and newpapers like the NYT about what an outlier Syria was in terms of Muslim countries in the middle east, cosmopolitan and much more secular than other nations of the same ilk. Then all of a sudden the propaganda machine rolls and he is literally Saddam Hussein part II.

The unintentional irony of your post is that you could have said exactly the same thing about Iraq under Saddam prior to that invasion.

Not that I disagree that Syria et. al. are being targeted by "greedy Western globalists", but keeping the line drawn at chemical weapons would seem to be a good way to avoid Syria turning into Irafganishan 3.0

Isn't one of the theories about Iraq that, when we loudly proclaimed our intent to invade, Saddam shipped his chemical weapons to Assad on trucks?

Also, I'd like to add a " " about the news that Tomi Lahren is suing Glenn Beck/The Blaze for "wrongful termination."

comesect2.0 wrote:just had this us army old school plane fly over the house....dont know much about planes but it was a double decker wing style old red baron type that read U.S. ARMY

Drop pizzas, not bombs

This thread is not good for my anxiety issues.

so me listening to minutemen's paranoid chant allday has shown to make absolute sense because so far the women of the clan have called and shouted ''did you hear that sound?!" "are there sirens going off in your area?!" "Im on the news channel but there not talking about bombs!?" ....."what was that!?" told them about that plane that crossed over earlier (that had nothing to do with anything other than it read u.s. army) and for a second you can see the fear in their eye....PARANOID ON OVERDRIVE!!!!!!!

Yeah, all my friends in Texas have been complaining about them.

I havent heard any sirens?
...maybe I'm dead already