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Re: The Whatever Thread .. For Gear!!

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:44 am
by backwardsvoyager
I'd recommend the Palmer if you want to do that. The rear feet are height adjustable and the back doesn't have a bar like the PT so you get more mounting room.
I don't have it anymore so I can't mock up the dimensions but i'm fairly certain you would need to put taller feet on the front, it has more than 4cm clearance at the back but not towards the front.

Re: The Whatever Thread .. For Gear!!

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:33 am
by dubkitty
that's a hip feature. i wonder if it would be complicated to retrofit a Pedaltrain with those screw-in feet they use for furniture and appliances?

Re: The Whatever Thread .. For Gear!!

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:52 pm
by Dowi
backwardsvoyager wrote:I'd recommend the Palmer if you want to do that. The rear feet are height adjustable and the back doesn't have a bar like the PT so you get more mounting room.
I don't have it anymore so I can't mock up the dimensions but i'm fairly certain you would need to put taller feet on the front, it has more than 4cm clearance at the back but not towards the front.
Thanks. Never had a PT, i had a palmer for a while but it was the huge model, so the depth was a bit more anyway - adjustable feet are superuseful anyway, i just feared to breake those legs when moving it around even if i knoe they're very resistent.

Re: The Whatever Thread .. For Gear!!

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:12 am
by Heraclitus Akimbo
Geez, I wonder what one would be getting if one bought a lap steel from China that cost $140 (Canadian dollars!)

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Re: The Whatever Thread .. For Gear!!

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:52 am
by Dandolin
welp - based on some similar lappies i've seen over the last 10 years or so, likely a verrry lightweight body and really short scale length, so fairly slack string tension and not the utmost sustain, unless you go for a really heavy string gauge, which...I don't know how large that bridge can take, esp. the lower strings - but maybe not too terrible overall.... I might fish around for a used piece instead, though.... :snax: That pickup is likely an improvement over the ceramic strat pickups you usually see thrown on those planks tho :idk:

Re: The Whatever Thread .. For Gear!!

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:38 am
by PanicProne
So I'm on a bloody buying spree and reaaaally close to buying an Ibanez Artist guitar I've been eyeing for quite a while. Should I do it?
With customs added it's right at the top, or even just beyond of what I allow myself to pay for a guitar (1000 euros). It's a rare one with a cool colour. It's also similar to the two ibanez guitars I already have, but a japan built one rather than a Korean and made quite few years later. Buying guitars online is always a bit risky I guess, but last time (another ibanez about 10 yrs ago) was a real success! I deffo don't need it but it's a real want, I probably won't ever come across it again and would deffo have use for it or could prob sell it for the same amount.. I know it's gonna sound good for me, only thing is if the neck is waaay off what I prefer. It's not a bolt on so won't be able to swap it... Help me out here! :P :D

Re: The Whatever Thread .. For Gear!!

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:05 pm
by Eivind August
Buy it! Also, pics?

Re: The Whatever Thread .. For Gear!!

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:02 pm
by Heraclitus Akimbo
Dandolin wrote:welp - based on some similar lappies i've seen over the last 10 years or so, likely a verrry lightweight body and really short scale length, so fairly slack string tension and not the utmost sustain, unless you go for a really heavy string gauge, which...I don't know how large that bridge can take, esp. the lower strings - but maybe not too terrible overall.... I might fish around for a used piece instead, though.... :snax: That pickup is likely an improvement over the ceramic strat pickups you usually see thrown on those planks tho :idk:
My big advantage is that I'm thinking in terms of "sound generation" instead of "sweet tone", so as long as the electronics work (not a given at that price point), it's giving me something I can pipe into my pedal chain.

Re: The Whatever Thread .. For Gear!!

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:55 pm
by Chankgeez
Heraclitus Akimbo wrote:Geez, I wonder what one would be getting if one bought a lap steel from China that cost $140 (Canadian dollars!)

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I'd probably only wanna pay about half that for one of those. :idk:

Yeah, you'd really only wanna make sure the electronics are sorta reliable. I'd shop around and either look for something cheaper or spend a little more money and get something you know to be of half-way decent quality. :snax:

Re: The Whatever Thread .. For Gear!!

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:08 am
by Dandolin

Re: The Whatever Thread .. For Gear!!

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:22 am
by Gone Fission
Guys who get into the whole Western swing serious playing do like shorter scales for facilitating slants—holding the bar at an angle rather than perpendicular to the strings to play intervals and chords. I don’t see a reason to do other than fat strings on a lap steel, but I’m not even a tourist in that country, so who knows. Intonatable bridges a failure of understanding by the manufacturers. Or, more realistically, a grab of the cheapest off-the-shelf bridge rather than spec’ing an appropriate part.

Re: The Whatever Thread .. For Gear!!

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:02 pm
by Dandolin
yep, shorter scale can make some slants easier, but there's other ways to grab your desired intervals on a lappie too (behind the bar bends, tunings, etc.). there's a sweet spot for ease-of-slant vs. the punchier/brighter/more-present tone and responsive feel available with ease in a longer scale, and many of these later model Chinese knock-offs aren't in it, imho. to be more specific, most of the guys looking for a shorter scale for slants are still wanting 23" scale length as opposed to the 25.5" or 27" you'll see on some rigs.... i'd wager very few of them are thrilled with the 21" available on planks like this Amazon jawn that is a look-alike for H.A.'s mark:


But again, that doesn't really matter for Heraclitus Akimbo...as long as the electronics work, it'll do what he wants.

That said, Heraclitus Akimbo, you might want to think about doubling your fun for a whole lot less than double your money.... :snax:

https://reverb.com/item/37152156-new-20 ... ric-guitar

For sound-source purposes, it's fun to leave both necks of a double neck on -- instant sympathetic strings - get your Glenn Branca on :idk:

Re: The Whatever Thread .. For Gear!!

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:52 pm
by Heraclitus Akimbo
Okay, I admit the double looks cool.

I did some digging around and found several variously branded ones like that one you linked on Amazon... there's a Harley Benton one and several others. My conclusion is that they're all probably from the same factory, so the no-name is no worse (possible random QA fluctuations aside).

So in the end I took the plunge and bought the Aliexpress cheapie. Will report back in 30 to 60 days.

Edit: I suppose I should look up what scale length is and why it matters.

Re: The Whatever Thread .. For Gear!!

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:50 am
by PanicProne
Eivind August wrote:Buy it! Also, pics?
I was going to, but someone got there first :(

Re: The Whatever Thread .. For Gear!!

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:50 am
by K2000
Has anyone tried one of the little Hotone Nano amps? 5 watts and modeled on various amp styles (Fender, Vox etc). They are $99. They have tube amp styling (looks like vents) but I don't think there are tubes in there.

I wonder how they compare to other options like amp-flavored pedals (Joyo has cheap ones, Tech 21 has some too) or Mooer's micro preamp pedals (supposed to go in an amp's effects loop).

I usually use headphones at home (or just practice silent/acoustic) so I might just be kicking the tires here, and not actually a buyer.